the standard is in stock and on sale for $79.99...dang it...might build another
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Ruger 10/22 build?
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sigpicOriginally posted by dunndealStop digging.iTraderOriginally posted by BrassCaseI only buy fireworks from Three Finger Willie over at One Eyed Jack's Fireworks.
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This ^^^^. I wouldn't even upgrade the barrel... the stock 10/22 barrel has perfectly useable open iron sights so you can "teach the kids" proper sight picture and is likely going to be plenty accurate. Get the stock rifle and a couple bricks of .22, then take many trips to the nearest range that has fun steel targets for rimfire. You will have a blast, the kids won't know they're shooting a regular old 10/22 instead of a fancy frankengun, and everybody wins. This is how I taught my 2 sons and 1 daughter to shoot, and years later they are all still shooting with me. I bought 2 10/22 rifles and a Mark II pistol for less than $1000 and thats what everyone learned on.If you're main agenda is to teach the kids, you don't need some high-dollar 22. You could get a stock Ruger for roughly $300, upgrade the trigger, and upgrade the barrel. You'd be in it for about 450 to $500 total and you would have a firearm that shoots way better than you or the kids do.
I will admit that I have since upgraded their 10/22s with Kidd, Volquartsen, etc fancy parts but that was probably 5 years after they learned the elements of marksmanship with irons.Last edited by Yetiultimate; 01-04-2023, 8:29 PM.Comment
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I went full Tactical Solutions 10/22 with Magpul backpacker stock. Its been awesomeComment
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May the Bridges I burn light the way.
Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.
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I would prefer a a $300 gun and $500 in ammo...Comment
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Any moron can work on one
Just ask me!
I bought a beat up stock model with an archaic folding stock that was terrible. I ditched everything but the receiver and turned it into a heavy barreled target shooter. Literally no specialized tools or training to do anything on these guns.
I recommend doing one just to say you did it.Comment
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Sage wisdom.Comment
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Super interesting, like the loading on the M&P magazine and visibility of remaining rounds, like the action stays open when out of shots... dislike how big/tall the gun is (harder for kids? or packing). Also seems like a scope mounting point would be higher off the barrel than Ruger.
Like the look more of a ruger - more compact. Would probably be getting better parts with the custom build.
Quick search shows M&P is like $500 + upgrades vs ~750 what I was gonna build. (are people seeing discount over MSRP?)
Hmm... seems internet forum consensus says 'buy the 10/22 because you can customize it' - but if you want to customize it to be more like an AR then.... I suppose I can mull it over at least until that receiver comes in stock.Comment
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Super interesting, like the loading on the M&P magazine and visibility of remaining rounds, like the action stays open when out of shots... dislike how big/tall the gun is (harder for kids? or packing). Also seems like a scope mounting point would be higher off the barrel than Ruger.
Like the look more of a ruger - more compact. Would probably be getting better parts with the custom build.
Quick search shows M&P is like $500 + upgrades vs ~750 what I was gonna build. (are people seeing discount over MSRP?)
Hmm... seems internet forum consensus says 'buy the 10/22 because you can customize it' - but if you want to customize it to be more like an AR then.... I suppose I can mull it over at least until that receiver comes in stock.
The easiest and best option is to buy both
I would honestly go with the Ruger build though on the Brownells receiver (first). If you've got kids, have them help you put it together. They'll remember it forever as the time you guys "built their childhood 22 they learned on". And if it doesn't function perfectly (it will) when you guys shoot it they'll get a little experience in troubleshooting.
The benefit to the M&P is I'm pretty sure the stock is readily adjustable like a normal AR stock. So that might fit your kids better depending on their age/age span. Your kid could shoot it, then you could easily extend the stock and shoot with it without any tools.sigpicLord, make my hand fast and accurate.
Let my aim be true and my hand faster
than those who would seek to destroy me.
Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and mine.
Let not my last thought be 'If I only had my gun."
And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home, let me die in an empty pile of brass.
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ocabj nailed it right here:
"Frankly, I'd get a CZ 457 if you want to teach the kids."
Can't count th # of times it has been expressed here-for kidz (new shooter) a semi-auto="spray and pray".
Bolt gunz = "slow down, think about it, shoot wisely(on target)".Tire kickers gonna kick,
Nose pickers gonna pick
I and others know the realComment
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First kid to learn will be daughter. She had her first time shooting a couple months ago on a semi-auto. She took her time between shots so I think were off to a good start.
I think I am comfortable with most of the parts I have selected. I just saw the BLACKHAWK! Knoxx Axiom stock weighs a pound less but I am really not a fan of the look. I put some numbers to paper (hard to get precise weights) but it looks like the current build with a scope would come out to about 6 lbs.
I do have some lingering concerns about the unknown Adaptive Tactical barrel. Can't find lots of information about it. But it's already quite a bit of $$ for everything; getting a TacSol barrel would shave off 3oz but +$90
Edit: can find a tac sol barrel on eBay for +$35
Edit Edit: I called Kidd, what originally turned me away was the diameter is 0.87 vs standard 0.92 this would leave me with a 0.6mm gap between the barrel and stock. This would also be +$45Last edited by new22build; 01-06-2023, 7:44 AM.Comment
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Well thanks for the help... spent $1k
Kidd receiver, 16" ultra lightweight threaded barrel, & bolt
Tac-Hammer RM4 stock
BX trigger
some magazines... gonna let the kid pick out the bolt handle on eBay.
I wasn't planning on spending so much but its likely I will keep this gun for life so...Comment
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Kidd makes good stuff. Their bolt and receiver combo ride silky smooth compared to stock. The ULW barrel will give it a nice balance. Have fun with your kid on the build!Comment
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