Big problems with Ruger 10/22 takedown at Appleseed shoot

[lostdogfan]

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[Bullets&Whitewalls]

What bull barrel has a front site on it? Did you flip the barrel insert in the stock for the bull barrel? I’m not sure the action would bolt up if you didn’t but I saw a pic posted of one where a guy had not flipped it.

[hardlyworking]

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#3 this one is (or could be) very easy. The stock, and aftermarket stocks, including my own Titan, are injection molded plastic. There is flashing and minor imprecision which gets taken off in post production but the mag well is an area of weakness. It may be slightly out of square. It may be slightly pinched in on the sides. On mine I did some minor sanding/beveling to the mag well and kept sanding until my mags dropped free every time. You have to find where they are binding up and eliminate it. Maybe some graphite or dry film lubricant (3M), whatever you do don't add any wet lubricant like a grease.

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[SkyHawk]

Your description of Problem #1 is confusing. A too-high mounted sight will result in a low group, not a high group. Safe to say the front sight is not mounted too high, if your group is too high

Problem #2 could easily just be leading. Did you clean your bore frequently? A 22LR is a crappy round for a long shoot session spanning many hours or much less days, unless you are cleaning frequently.

[ojisan]

1. Yup, the bull barrel sight is taller than the tapered one.
A raise in rear sight height is needed to match.
Rear sight does not go high enough?
Front sight needs to come down...consider dovetail cut in barrel to mount front sight if a low enough sight blade can't be found.

2. Check barrel tension ring nut setting.
I have not fired my Takedown enough to see if there is a heating / accuracy issue but the barrel nut must be correctly adjusted so there is zero barrel play.

3. Yes, check mag well inside as mentioned above.
The clear Ruger mags are wider than the black ones so if you are using these there may be an issue.
I have run into a couple magazine brands over the years that were too long front to back and rubbed on the receiver mag well cut edges so check this too.

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[G-forceJunkie]

Takedown rifles are good for one thing, storing in a smaller space. Everything else about them is a compromise. I cant think of a worse rifle for when your using a sling which puts alot of load on the stock. With a 2 piece stock, now your trying to bend the barrel/reciever junction. A bone stock 10/22 with tech sites is all you need for Appleseed.

[jeremiah12]

First, as G-forceJunkie stated, takedown rifles are a compromise and not the best choice for Appleseed. I have a few 10/22s and I would take my nearly stock one with peep sights (I have old eyes).

I have a takedown and I got rid of the plastic stock. On a regular 10/22 the plastic stock flexes enough that depending on how tight against your shoulder you hold it, your sights can be significantly off. I learned that with my first 10/22 when I scoped it and started shooting at 100 yards. I bought a wood stock for it and my groups immediately tightened up.

When the takedowns first came out I could not find one and I was buying a gun through a PPT and I noticed the FFL had just put a takedown out and I told him to add it to my DROS which he gladly did.

The flex issue was even worse so I found a person online that build a custom wood stock for me. It greatly helped.

The 10/22 I purchased for my son had issues with dropping mags like you described. I finally took the mag release out and discovered that when I had installed the extended mag release I had bent the mag plunger slightly so it would not move all the way back into the trigger housing. So I replaced it and it worked better. The other issue was the extended mag release did not fit well into the Volquartsen trigger housing so I had to also buy one from Volquartsen which did not make my son too happy because I could not one in his choice of color. I told him it was that or go back to the original so he sucked it up.

The other issue is the magazines themselves. The clear ones are slightly larger so they do have fitment issues. If you use those, you may have to sand them down slightly. If you have the black ones try those first.

I have also found that using tri-mags works wonders in getting mags to drop free. https://shopruger.com/10_22-TriMag/productinfo/12033/

By connecting 3 10-round mags together, the extra weight allows the mag to drop free quickly. Once you get use to it you can quickly rotate them and insert the next mag very quickly. I do it without looking. My trigger finger activates the extended mag release and then my free hand catches the mag rotates it counter clockwise and inserts the next one.

Since I am a lefty, my left hand holds the rifle at eye level and my right hand releases the bolt and I am on target ready for my next shot.

If you are using a regular 10/22, I suggest getting an adjustable v-block. https://www.tacticalinc.com/catalog/product/id-1349
The set screw will support your barrel and prevent barrel droop which can be an issue and be a cause of groups spreading out later in the day.

You may also want to shoot some cleaner ammo. At 25 m you really do not need to HV ammo and have extra unburned gun powder and all the carbon residue gumming up everything. I might consider spending a little more on match quality ammo that does not have a wax coating to attract more dirt and yet still burns cleanly.

And during the lunch break do a quick clean. A 10/22 is not that hard to take down and clean. In between rounds if you have a few minutes a bore snake does not hurt.

[ocabj]

This exact question was posted on reddit earlier today and I responded there.

I'll reiterate what I said on reddit: This is a 10/22 Takedown. Inherently you're going to have consistency issues if you're placing any pressure whatsoever on the foreend of the rifle because it is attached to the barrel. I've never shot appleseed but I'm guessing you're shooting 3-position with a sling just like in High Power Rifle aka Across the Course aka National Match. Sling tension alone on that foreend sling attachment is detrimental to accuracy.

I have a 10/22 Takedown and I can make that thing shoot decent groups off a bench, but I have no doubt in my mind the groups will change significantly if I ever put a 1907 sling on it and tried to shoot prone with it as tight as I used to shoot Service Rifle.

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[Spectralex]

Regarding magazine and extended release- you did not share if you are using the regular Ruger black mags or the clear Ruger mags. If you are using clear mags they are slightly oversized especially on a Ruger plastic stock. I had the exact same issue with clear mags sticking. I had to sand down the mag well. The other recommendation is to sand down/ round out the sharp edges on the mags. This helps to relieve the pressure and it will drop much easier. As far as the extended mag release is concern, try to stick to one brand if possible. I was having problem with Kidd extended lever when paired with Volquartsen auto bolt release. When releasing the mag it would release the bolt on its own. After I replace it with a matching Kidd auto bolt release, it worked as prescribed.


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