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GSG 1911-22; Added the CW accessory kit, having some issues. (mostly fixed)

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  • #16
    B2D
    Member
    • Aug 2018
    • 468

    Quick update... did as creampuff suggested and checked the extractor. It's not hanging up, it's moving in n out freely.

    I did take it apart and clean it again. I hadn't cleaned the rails as well as I'd thought and that was probably contributing. It's noticeably smoother now but still not where it needs to be.

    ysr_racer directed me to EGW for a bushing. I think i may order one that's not quite so tight on the barrel diameter. The stock bushing inner diameter is .599 which visibly leaves too much space. The CW version is .565 which is likely too tight. EGW's gunsmith fit measures .568, which is close to the CW part, so I may order one closer to .570, perhaps?

    If that doesn't solve it I'll look at other options.
    Last edited by B2D; 11-24-2019, 1:13 AM.

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    • #17
      creampuff
      • Jan 2006
      • 3730

      Originally posted by B2D
      Quick update... did as creampuff suggested and checked the extractor. It's not hanging up, it's moving in n out freely.

      I did take it apart and clean it again. I hadn't cleaned the rails as well as I'd thought and that was probably contributing. It's noticeably smoother now but still not where it needs to be.

      ysr_racer directed me to EGW for a bushing. I think i may order one that's not quite so tight on the barrel diameter. The stock bushing inner diameter is .599 which visibly leaves too much space. The CW version is .565 which is likely too tight. EGW's gunsmith fit measures .568, which is close to the CW part, so I may order one closer to .570, perhaps?

      If that doesn't solve it I'll look at other options.
      How much contact , if any,is the barrel making with the CWS bushing?

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      • #18
        ysr_racer
        Banned
        • Mar 2006
        • 12014

        Originally posted by B2D
        Quick update... did as creampuff suggested and checked the extractor. It's not hanging up, it's moving in n out freely.

        I did take it apart and clean it again. I hadn't cleaned the rails as well as I'd thought and that was probably contributing. It's noticeably smoother now but still not where it needs to be.

        ysr_racer directed me to EGW for a bushing. I think i may order one that's not quite so tight on the barrel diameter. The stock bushing inner diameter is .599 which visibly leaves too much space. The CW version is .565 which is likely too tight. EGW's gunsmith fit measures .568, which is close to the CW part, so I may order one closer to .570, perhaps?

        If that doesn't solve it I'll look at other options.
        What's your barrel diameter? The reason I ask is mine is .550

        EGW is making my bushing with an inside diameter of .553

        Anything bigger is too loose.
        Last edited by ysr_racer; 11-24-2019, 5:11 PM.

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        • #19
          B2D
          Member
          • Aug 2018
          • 468

          Originally posted by creampuff
          How much contact , if any,is the barrel making with the CWS bushing?
          Originally posted by ysr_racer
          What's your barrel diameter? The reason I ask is mine is .550

          EGW is making my bushing with an inside diameter of .553

          Anything bigger is too loose.
          Did some more careful measurements; the barrel diameter measures .550 and the CW bushing measures .565 in the inner diameter. That should be MORE than enough room. How much of a gap is really needed? Not much I'd imagine. If YSR's bushing works then .005 or less should be OK.

          Which means that something else is causing the slide to hang up in that last bit of travel.

          Hmmm... I may talk to my local gunsmith about this one if I can't fix it myself.

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          • #20
            k1dude
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2009
            • 16038

            Originally posted by creampuff
            I had the exact same problem, but you aren't going to like my solution. The tolerances are too tight with the CWS accessories. Not their fault, they make their products consistently. However the GSG is pot metal lottery. Take a look at the extractor carefully and watch as it goes into battery. When I had the CWS accessories in place, the extractor would catch on the groove and cause the slide to not go into battery until you give it a gentle nudge.

            I didn't want to file the groove so it was my excuse to buy the CWS barrel. The new barrel mated perfectly with the groove.

            But like I said, you won't like my solution. Buying a $150 barrel for a $300 gun is probably not ideal. I enjoy shooting the modified GSG so I guess it was worth it.
            Did your GSG experience any improvement in accuracy and precision with those mods?
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            • #21
              B2D
              Member
              • Aug 2018
              • 468

              Originally posted by k1dude
              Did your GSG experience any improvement in accuracy and precision with those mods?
              I think so, though it was hard to tell having to 'fix' the pistol after almost every shot.

              point of impact centered up but it's still shooting high. I expected that due to the tighter bushing fit.

              I was gonna get the Dawson sight set for it first because they're adjusted for that, but I'd like to get this cycling issue fixed first.

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              • #22
                ysr_racer
                Banned
                • Mar 2006
                • 12014

                If you take the barrel off, and the bushing off, are you able to slide the bushing over the barrel when they're not on the gun?

                If you are, then it's something else that's hanging up because the barrel is at a different angle.

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                • #23
                  ysr_racer
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 12014

                  Have you tried changing the barrel link?

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                  • #24
                    B2D
                    Member
                    • Aug 2018
                    • 468

                    Originally posted by ysr_racer
                    If you take the barrel off, and the bushing off, are you able to slide the bushing over the barrel when they're not on the gun?

                    If you are, then it's something else that's hanging up because the barrel is at a different angle.
                    Yes, and I agree. Something else is preventing going into battery consistently. I'm going to take a look at that extractor again. I don't know what else it could be.

                    I'm good with tinkering with guitars, and this isn't my first pistol but it is my first .22 and my first gun I've tinkered with. I'm learning the logic here.

                    Originally posted by ysr_racer
                    Have you tried changing the barrel link?

                    These don't really have a barrel link in the same way that a typical 1911 does. It's more of a solid lug that's attached to the barrel under the chamber. There are three holes in it... center one holds the slide release and the back one is labeled as a 'fixing pin'. The front one is suppose to be optional after using a tighter bushing, as the tighter bushing is doing the job that the front screw was doing, which was holding the barrel in place.

                    (pic is for reference, not my pistol).

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                    • #25
                      ysr_racer
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 12014

                      I know there's no barrel link, that's why I put the smiley face

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                      • #26
                        Mayor McRifle
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                        • Dec 2013
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                        • #27
                          1911Luvr
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 1824

                          I voted against Obama before it was cool.

                          Originally posted by 1911Luvr
                          I beg to differ. The full length dust cover rail makes a world of difference in the "when I run out of bullets I'm going to beat you to death with the pistol" look that causes bad guys to run in fear, and lesser men to feel inadequate. It looks just plain beastly and the extra heft up front does help manage recoil a bit better. Plus, an angel told me that when God called JMB to heaven it was to build him a full rail 1911!

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                          • #28
                            ysr_racer
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 12014

                            Agreed, you may not win the Tour de France, but you'll still have a pretty cool tricycle

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                            • #29
                              B2D
                              Member
                              • Aug 2018
                              • 468

                              Originally posted by ysr_racer
                              I know there's no barrel link, that's why I put the smiley face
                              doh!! I missed the significance of that part.

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                              • #30
                                creampuff
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 3730

                                Originally posted by k1dude
                                Did your GSG experience any improvement in accuracy and precision with those mods?
                                Yes, now that I am done it does group almost as tightly as my Buckmark. It has the fun factor that the Buckmark doesn't have though.

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