GSG 1911-22; Added the CW accessory kit, having some issues. (mostly fixed)

[B2D]

Hey all. I've reached out to CW on this, just wanted to see if anyone else had run into this in the past.

I bought a GSG 1911-22 on sale at Turners back in May and I've had 700 rds through it since then.

I decided to get the CW Accessories 'Performance Accelerator Package" seen here: https://www.cwaccessories.com/produc...rmance-package

[ysr_racer]

With the new bushing, you're not using the barrel screw anymore, right?

Have you tried the factory recoil spring?

[B2D]

With the new bushing, you're not using the barrel screw anymore, right?

Have you tried the factory recoil spring?

Correct, I am not using the barrel screw with the allen head.

I haven't tried the factory recoil spring, as the one that came with the CW kit is supposed to be stronger, and I'd think that would actually help with getting the slide back in battery, rather than prohibit it.

[ysr_racer]

Take the spring out, and work the slide up and back by hand. Does it go into battery freely?

[ysr_racer]

Also make sure you're not dragging your left thumb on the slide, if you're right handed. The recoil spring is so soft that any resistance will cause in not to go into battery.

Shoot the gun right handed, and don't limp wrist it.

[Creampuff]

I had the exact same problem, but you aren't going to like my solution. The tolerances are too tight with the CWS accessories. Not their fault, they make their products consistently. However the GSG is pot metal lottery. Take a look at the extractor carefully and watch as it goes into battery. When I had the CWS accessories in place, the extractor would catch on the groove and cause the slide to not go into battery until you give it a gentle nudge.

I didn't want to file the groove so it was my excuse to buy the CWS barrel. The new barrel mated perfectly with the groove.

But like I said, you won't like my solution. Buying a $150 barrel for a $300 gun is probably not ideal. I enjoy shooting the modified GSG so I guess it was worth it.

Next time you the chance - look at the barrel placement when you are using the original bushing and the barrel screw versus, no barrel screw and the CWS bushing. The CWS bushing is great because it is consistent unlike the when you use the barrel screw when it varies by how much you torque it down. But the CWS bushing places the barrel just a hair bit higher. That is enough to offset the location of the extractor relative to the extractor groove.

side note: youtube etc will say, use fine grit sandpaper to remove overspray from the slide rails. I did that. But still did not solve the slide not going into battery.

[1911Luvr]

I had the exact same problem, but you aren't going to like my solution. The tolerances are too tight with the CWS accessories. Not their fault, they make their products consistently. However the GSG is pot metal lottery. Take a look at the extractor carefully and watch as it goes into battery. When I had the CWS accessories in place, the extractor would catch on the groove and cause the slide to not go into battery until you give it a gentle nudge.

I didn't want to file the groove so it was my excuse to buy the CWS barrel. The new barrel mated perfectly with the groove.

But like I said, you won't like my solution. Buying a $150 barrel for a $300 gun is probably not ideal. I enjoy shooting the modified GSG so I guess it was worth it.

Next time you the chance - look at the barrel placement when you are using the original bushing and the barrel screw versus, no barrel screw and the CWS bushing. The CWS bushing is great because it is consistent unlike the when you use the barrel screw when it varies by how much you torque it down. But the CWS bushing places the barrel just a hair bit higher. That is enough to offset the location of the extractor relative to the extractor groove.

side note: youtube etc will say, use fine grit sandpaper to remove overspray from the slide rails. I did that. But still did not solve the slide not going into battery.

[Creampuff]

yes, but I was looking for an excuse to buy a $150 barrel for a $270 gun

[1911Luvr]

yes, but I was looking for an excuse to buy a $150 barrel for a $270 gun

[Creampuff]

For most part, I don't believe the term "too much" should exist in Calguns when it comes to firearms. But I'll make an exception. That might be too much.

[B2D]

Take the spring out, and work the slide up and back by hand. Does it go into battery freely?

No, actually. It's still getting hung up on that very last bit of travel. Rails are clean and lubed.

Also make sure you're not dragging your left thumb on the slide, if you're right handed. The recoil spring is so soft that any resistance will cause in not to go into battery.

Shoot the gun right handed, and don't limp wrist it.

Yup - not dragging the slide, and not limp wristing, and I'm R handed.

[B2D]

I had the exact same problem, but you aren't going to like my solution. The tolerances are too tight with the CWS accessories. Not their fault, they make their products consistently. However the GSG is pot metal lottery. Take a look at the extractor carefully and watch as it goes into battery. When I had the CWS accessories in place, the extractor would catch on the groove and cause the slide to not go into battery until you give it a gentle nudge.

I didn't want to file the groove so it was my excuse to buy the CWS barrel. The new barrel mated perfectly with the groove.

But like I said, you won't like my solution. Buying a $150 barrel for a $300 gun is probably not ideal. I enjoy shooting the modified GSG so I guess it was worth it.

Next time you the chance - look at the barrel placement when you are using the original bushing and the barrel screw versus, no barrel screw and the CWS bushing. The CWS bushing is great because it is consistent unlike the when you use the barrel screw when it varies by how much you torque it down. But the CWS bushing places the barrel just a hair bit higher. That is enough to offset the location of the extractor relative to the extractor groove.

side note: youtube etc will say, use fine grit sandpaper to remove overspray from the slide rails. I did that. But still did not solve the slide not going into battery.

I'll look into that and get back to you. I love the 1911 form factor but as I've already put $50 grips and a $70 tuner kit and was planning on putting better sights on it, I'm starting to wonder if I should spent the money on a Buckmark.

I'll look into that as well. I think I can buy a replacement extractor as well.

Wow... is that a thumb rest screwed into the slide? Interesting.

[B2D]

On another note, CW got back to me this afternoon. He recommended more lube and trying the Variable Recoil Spring that came with the kit, instead of the power spring.

The stock spring doesn't solve the issue, but interestingly enough the VRS does seem to alleviate the issue, but not solve it.

Pulling the slide back and letting go or releasing it from slide lock (with dummy ammo) results in the slide not going fully into battery about 4 our of 5 times.

CW also recommended sanding the outside of the end of the barrel slightly as there can sometimes be a bump where the barrel cap is welded in. There's isn't one that I can see or feel. I would think that sanding would make it not as slick but I might try it.

[newbie1234]

Is this NICE pistol on Roster ?

[1911Luvr]

Is this NICE pistol on Roster ?