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  • pratchett
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 870

    10/22 Barrel: Worth It, or Not?

    I was considering a match barrel from Lilja or another top manufacturer, but first wanted to ask the assembled masses: is it worth it? Will I see enough improvement to merit the expense?
  • #2
    hardlyworking
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1210

    Compared to what? Stock barrel with the barrel band?

    I had a stock barrel that did OK with the right ammo. Put a green mountain semi-bull on it and 7 brands of subsonic all but up nearly indistinguishable kick butt groups from slung up prone (Appleseed style).

    GM barrels are nowhere near Lilja and I saw a massive improvement. So my guess is you will too! Question then is how do you intend to capture the accuracy potential?

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    • #3
      jarhead714
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2012
      • 9111

      Seems like anything to make a light rifle heavier would be a good thing right?

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      • #4
        snypr
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 1142

        Originally posted by jarhead714
        Seems like anything to make a light rifle heavier would be a good thing right?
        That would depend on his use.
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        • #5
          Paperchasin
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          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2010
          • 6407

          Definitely worth it. But don't skimp on ammo either.
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          • #6
            hermosabeach
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2009
            • 19574

            Interesting question-

            How do you shoot your 10/22?
            What type of match ammo doe you shoot in your 10/22?
            What type of optic - brand/ magnification?

            YEARS ago I picked up a new stock and BULL Barrel for a 10/22

            It made it too heavy for kids and the GF at the time to shoot it offhand.

            Then you add a scope to squeeze the longer range shooting and you lost the ability of a newer shooter to find a clay at 25 feet on the ground...



            So start with the end game- how will you use the 10/22?


            The 10/22 is a fun gun to shoot
            It's a great gun to start to learn about assembly/ disassembly/ modification

            It's the first gun many try a rattle can project/ duracoat/ alumnahyde2 project


            So have fun and tell us more?

            Groups at 50 yards from bench
            Groups at 200 from Prone
            Shooting ground squirrels in an orchard

            What are you trying to "Fix"?
            Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

            Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

            Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

            Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
            (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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            • #7
              NeilMo
              Member
              • Nov 2018
              • 356

              If I was to burn some $$$ on my 10/22 I would buy a lightweight Kidd barrel and a trigger job kit. 100 yard groups with this setup will be about the same or better than the stock 10/22 parts could do at 50 yards. I'd also have the bolt worked to achieve the optimal headspace and clean up the firing pin while I was at it to minimize flyers. Any extra $$$ I'd use toward some better glass and ammo.

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              • #8
                M76
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2014
                • 5953

                I put a tac sol match barrel on mine and see a noticeable improvement;
                +combined with match ammo as others stated helps (Ely in particular)
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                • #9
                  crufflers
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 12723

                  I thought it was worth it for a VQ muzzle-weighted stainless barrel when they were $140... it cost about $20 more than the 10/22 IIRC, and the gun shot a lot better after. I would not want to pay $300 for a 10/22 barrel though. I'd probably try a Green Mountain or similar for $100 if I built another. I might try one of the GM 22" Muzzle-weighted barrels, but I wish they made one in 16" or 17.5". They have a 17.5" that's .920 and 1.06 at muzzle... I like the standard profile to .920.

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                  • #10
                    crufflers
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 12723



                    Nice one.

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                    • #11
                      Dvrjon
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 11364

                      Originally posted by pratchett
                      I was considering a match barrel from Lilja or another top manufacturer, but first wanted to ask the assembled masses: is it worth it? Will I see enough improvement to merit the expense?
                      Not if you maintain the stock trigger...start there.

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                      • #12
                        FeuerFrei
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 7455

                        Start with a great trigger and equally great ammo and test it first.

                        From a factory config I started with a Kidd trigger and floated the original barrel in the wood stock.
                        Printed a little tighter than before.

                        Then I went nuts on it with a light synthetic stock and a heavy 1/9 twist GM barrel for the Aguila SSS "flying brick" ammo. It shoots great and can eat other subsonic ammos since I had to mod it to cycle that stuff.

                        It's a mad man now and culls ground squirrels out to 150 yds. That's what I made it for any way.

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                        • #13
                          alpha_romeo_XV
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 3050

                          I have a few target grade 22's but I only shoot outdoors and I've found that besides good ammo, a varying cross wind makes a big difference in group size at 100 yards.

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                          • #14
                            Teachu2
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 835

                            MY OPINION(S): The two biggest improvements you can make to a 10/22s accuracy are trigger and barrel. Check out Rimfirecentral.com for lots of info. Best return on investment is a Kidd Trigger Job. I have two of them, one Kidd single stage complete, and two Kidd two stage triggers. My two ultralight hunters have Trigger Jobs, the three heavy barrels have the rest.
                            Barrels - there are LOTS of barrels out there that will yield serious improvement in comparison to a factory Ruger carbine barrel. Some shooters send the factory carbine to CPC for trigger and barrel work (~$200 total) and end up with very accurate guns that shoot great and LOOK stock, for less $ than a new trigger and barrel. My next 10/22 will probably be that setup. My ultralights both have Kidd ULW barrels, and Blackhawk Axiom stocks. One of my heavyweights has it's original Ruger factory 10/22T 20" bull barrel, one has a E.R.Shaw 18" stainless bull, and the third is a Kidd Supergrade with a 20" Match stainless bull. No regrets on any of them. The Supergrade is a Kidd barreled Supergrade action, mounted in a Victor Titan stock with the Titan rear mount that is designed for the Kidd action. It is my only non-Ruger receiver and bolt.
                            A high dollar barrel alone would probably be a waste of money. For the same money (or less), you could have a very good barrel and a great trigger - and a better shooting gun. How you plan to use the rifle will determine barrel configuration and (to some degree) trigger setup.

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                            • #15
                              Tom-ADC
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 3614

                              When back when probably mid 80’s I sent my 10/22 to Clarke in Louisiana for a trigger/action job and one of their barrels was in a Hogue overmolded stock for many years now in a Boyd laminated wood. Thing was a tack driver, shot Federal match ammo the old stuff rifle really liked it.
                              US Navy Retired, NRA Lifetime member. Member CRPA

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