.22 dedicated upper and multi caliber lower

[Juliuscesar1212]

If you have a multi caliber lower receiver with a bullet button and a dedicated. 22lr upper receiver with all the evil features, is it California compliant?

[ARFrog]

Loose the bullet button...why?...because you can...and replace it with a standard release.

A 22 cal or rimfire is not a designated "evil weapon" and can have all the evil functional features you wish (although I would probably skip the grenade launcher)

Their are a couple other forum posts that might be of interest like:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1444893

Or search for AR 22 or PSA upper or CMMG upper.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

[Juliuscesar1212]

So what you're saying is I can just take the bullet button out and install a standard mag release button?

[chomorro]

I think the only thing that might be questionable is that intent law. If you have a 5.56 upper anywhere near it there is intent?

I dont know it's all confusing so I just made all mine break action and use different uppers.

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[ARFrog]

So what you're saying is I can just take the bullet button out and install a standard mag release button?

Disclaimer - I am not an attorney and I do not play one on TV.

Having dispensed with the disclaimer, you started out by asking about a multi cal lower with 22 cal upper. This assumes the parts are together as a "complete" rifle and bullet buttons are not required on rimfires.

The questions start multiplying when you take the upper and lower apart and perhaps with the previous post's comment about intent.

Some have gone the dedicated upper route to avoid questions about removing a CMMG type conversion bolt from a 5.56 upper, for example, and then having a restricted or banned set of left over parts including evil features.

Some have taken steps to plug empty buffers to amplify intent that the completed lower can not be paired with a center fire upper/BCG.

Some advocate not removing upper from lower except for cleaning since a non-featureless complete lower would be problematic.

Bottom line for all of us is that non-specific laws written by unknowledgeable ideologues leave all of us in uncharted territory relative to firm compliance answers.

So, if you want 100% certainty, sell all your firearms and buy stamps.

[Unforgiven]

Are you saying a non-featureless lower that is separated from an upper is illegal? I thought it had to be paired to an upper to be illegal?

[ARFrog]

Are you saying a non-featureless lower that is separated from an upper is illegal? I thought it had to be paired to an upper to be illegal?

No, I am saying that this is a problematic topic/area that based on parts and how they are assembled, or not, can cause confusion. For example, here is another forum posting that shows differing opinions from a CMMG conversion perspective. (Note the discussion about the lower not violating AW law but asking do you really want to trust LEO, or I would add DA, interpretations):

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1444893&highlight=Separated+lower

Another way to handle this or show intent might be to use a Boonie Packer Better-Mag adapter that when/while installed causes the lower to not accept center fire ammo or uppers. This choice handles law issues, parts removal, intent, etc IMHO.

OK, now I have a headache from having my Tom Terrific Thinking Cap on too tight....where did I put my CA 2A aspirin?????

[chomorro]

Yeah it's all too confusing. I have a 15 22 which is my dedicated lol.

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[ARFrog]

Yeah it's all too confusing. I have a 15 22 which is my dedicated lol.

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+1 on confusing

++1 on S&W M&P 15-22 which is a fun rifle - too bad it is not Appleseed compliant

[Bisley]

With the CMMG conversion you do not need a buffer spring or buffer. Leave them out, there is absolutely no way for a 5.56 (or any other) upper to function in it. Problem solved.

[Juliuscesar1212]

I just wanna keep my setup as permanent, a multi caliber lower receiver with bullet button and a dedicated. 22lr upper receiver. Am i good to go?

[SVGUY]

Regardless of the laws, you have anti gun activists prosecutors and media ready to pounce on you as an example to others. No one has enough funds to fight such charges. The system is rigged against you.

[Garand Hunter]

What is wrong with having a copy of the regs outlined in red ink concerning 22rf and what IS a centerfire rifle ? I have one at arms reach for my CMMG convert rig installed in my AR. Its in the safe and stays there, already set iron sights for 100 yrds. It was installed before the deadline. Read the regs again on what IS a broken AW.

Psalm 1

[chomorro]

I don't think any law makes sense honestly. I went to an ffl last night to do a ppt on an ca compliant break action ar pistol.

They refused to do the transfer. I asked why and they brought up an assault weapon chart and said the fixed magazine question yes or no is a grey area with an ar pistol.

I showed them the magazine could not be released when action was closed. Their rebuttal was the trigger can be fired with the action open making it illegal and a felony hahha WTF.

Anyways had to go to another FFL who knows the same laws etc etc and they do ar pistol transfers. Both FFL are big name businesses, why the difference? Who the heck knows.

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[Jimi Jah]

My centerfire capable .22 upper is featureless with a Levang compensator. If I remove the Ceiner .22LR BCG it can shoot 5.56.

The lower is also featureless with a MFT fixed stock and Sparrow grip. I swap this stuff around. I don't like questions.