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  • #16
    ARFrog
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 1293

    In the instructions, the spring and detent from the old trigger is reused in the new trigger group.

    It is possible you had a "flyer" upon disassembly. ��

    The spring and detent keep enough contact/pressure to keep the safety button from sliding out on either side.

    Hope this helps and good luck.
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    • #17
      readysetgo
      CGSSA Coordinator
      • Aug 2011
      • 8694

      You lost the spring somewhere. Doh! The hunt begins...
      Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac

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      • #18
        retired
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        • Sep 2007
        • 9412

        Does this mysterious spring sit on top of the detent so as to be readily visible when pulling it straight up after removing the roll pin, because if so, there was nothing there when I did so with my needle nose pliers. Does it sit between the detent and safety button. And I suppose this can't be ordered by itself and I have to buy a whole new gun.

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        • #19
          readysetgo
          CGSSA Coordinator
          • Aug 2011
          • 8694



          The spring sits under the detent, applying force upwards.

          It sits in the hole and the tail of the detent rests on top of the spring.

          If we can figure the size, it shouldn't be hard to find a replacement.
          Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac

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          • #20
            retired
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            • Sep 2007
            • 9412

            Originally posted by readysetgo
            You lost the spring somewhere. Doh! The hunt begins...
            That was a short and fruitless hunt. I did this at night at the kitchen table. I had placed newspapers on my area so as not to damage table and I used bright led lights in addition to the overhead table light. Evidently sometime after removing roll pin and detent and before safety, the spring disappeared tho I never saw anything, nor felt any resistance. A look a few minutes ago in bright daylight and the overhead light met with negative results.

            Originally posted by readysetgo


            The spring sits under the detent, applying force upwards.

            It sits in the hole and the tail of the detent rests on top of the spring.

            If we can figure the size, it shouldn't be hard to find a replacement.
            Well, gosh, it's all so obvious now damnit. Heck, my grandkids could have probably shot the gun the way it was until they became adults without a problem, but no, grampa had to try and fix it. Guess I will call Marlin first about buying a spring. The shipping will probably be 5 times the cost. If not available thru them, I'll try Brownells and the other parts places I guess. Lesson to self, all repairs done during day.

            readtsetgo, thank you for the detailed photo and the trouble you went to to disassemble your trigger guard if that was the case, very helpful. I still don't understand why I was unable to find any schematic of the trigger guard and its various roll pins, springs and detent. All that was ever shown was either the empty trigger guard or the fully assembled one and that's looking at Brownells and just googling the actual gun and trigger guard separately.
            Last edited by retired; 08-19-2018, 12:17 PM.

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            • #21
              ARFrog
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2016
              • 1293

              There are several options out there for the missing spring:

              Check out the deal on Marlin Safety Plunger Spring, Blued and Stainless Models at MGW




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              I also saw in another forum someone talking about using several coils (5 or 6) from a similar size ink pen spring. Not sure I would do so but if it is a similar size and the safety consistently works then ??????????????? maybe an option. (Remember safety first - no pun intended.)

              Hope this helps.
              Last edited by ARFrog; 08-19-2018, 1:44 PM.
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              • #22
                ARFrog
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2016
                • 1293

                Note to self - buy more plastic bags to use for workbench disassembly projects



                "Dear Lord, may I learn from the painful experiences of others and not repeat them...

                ...and help me stop bending the factory recoil springs in my Marlin 795!"
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                • #23
                  retired
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                  • Sep 2007
                  • 9412

                  Originally posted by ARFrog
                  There are several options out there for the missing spring:

                  Check out the deal on Marlin Safety Plunger Spring, Blued and Stainless Models at MGW




                  Precision CNC Machined American Made Firearm Performance Parts. Superior Aftermarket Firearm Performance Parts Manufactured by Combat Veterans to meet strict Combat Ready Expectations! M*CARBO - MILITARY CARBINE BROTHERHOOD. A COMMUNITY OF VETERANS, POLICE OFFICERS AND 2ND AMEMDMENT PATRIOTS!


                  I also saw in another forum someone talking about using several coils (5 or 6) from a similar size ink pen spring. Not sure I would do so but if it is a similar size and the safety consistently works then ??????????????? maybe an option. (Remember safety first - no pun intended.)

                  Hope this helps.
                  Thank you for that. It looks like only the first link is applicable. The second one, Di Products, is all about pins and the pins are fine. No spring in this one.
                  The third one is, if I'm not mistaken, parts #9 & #10, which go in the upper receiver. The detent shown looks nothing like the one for the safety. Also, this spring looks similar to that in a pen.

                  I will call Marlin tomorrow and start with them. Since I'm known amongst family members and friends as being able to sell a freezer to an eskimo, I will convince them it was t their idea to send me the spring since I wouldn't need it if their cheap plastic trigger guard hadn't broken. Especially when I mention it is not an isolated incident. I'll tell them good will will go along way. I'll post here and when I get it, I will be circumspect when installing it (not at night either).

                  BTW, I have plenty of 1 gallon freezer bags I could have used, but not being mechanically inclined it didn't even come to mind. It will for the future, so thanks for that.

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                  • #24
                    trentb
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 44

                    Got a magnet? Might get lucky doing some "fishing" on the floor where you were working and find that spring.

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                    • #25
                      retired
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                      • Sep 2007
                      • 9412

                      Originally posted by trentb
                      Got a magnet? Might get lucky doing some "fishing" on the floor where you were working and find that spring.
                      I think I can scrounge one up. Thanks for the idea because I sure didn't think of it. Now I have to hope the cat didn't find it and decide it would be a nice little toy to bat around the house. With 900sq. feet of tile, it will go far. I will in all honesty probably end up buying it from the first link that ARFrog gave me since I can't spend too much time on my knees looking for it due to a knee replacement at the end of Jan. BTW, Marlin doesn't even have a listing for it, one has to buy the whole assembled trigger guard.

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                      • #26
                        john myers
                        Member
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 414

                        Originally posted by retired
                        I think I can scrounge one up. Thanks for the idea because I sure didn't think of it. Now I have to hope the cat didn't find it and decide it would be a nice little toy to bat around the house. With 900sq. feet of tile, it will go far. I will in all honesty probably end up buying it from the first link that ARFrog gave me since I can't spend too much time on my knees looking for it due to a knee replacement at the end of Jan. BTW, Marlin doesn't even have a listing for it, one has to buy the whole assembled trigger guard.
                        find a magnet you can tie a string on or you can get telescopic one at the local auto parts store or harbor freight you wont have to get on your knees

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                        • #27
                          skull_leader
                          Junior Member
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 16

                          My thoughts are its not a part that is critical to firing but just has to keep the safety from coming off/on unintended. As long as you can find any spring that will keep good pressure on the detent then you'll be fine.


                          If it was me I would find a pen spring that worked. Until the thought of having a pen spring as a replacement part ate at me enough to make me want to spend $10 on the real replacement spring.

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                          • #28
                            lawboy
                            Member
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 393

                            Get the DIP triggerguard and the DIP trigger. They are work the money.

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                            • #29
                              retired
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                              • Sep 2007
                              • 9412

                              I appreciate all of the advice, so thank you all. Since skull_leader was nice enough to send me his OEM trigger guard I will go with that and hope that's the end of it. If this one breaks then I'll get the DIP one.

                              I will be ordering the safety plunger spring from Mid West Gunworks. Thank you ARFrog for that link. Yes, the spring is $4.50 and shipping is $6.99, but that's what I get for not being careful. I can guarantee I will assemble the safety, plunger and spring in a plastic bag this time. I don't want to buy another one.

                              I actually attempted to purchase the spring a few minutes ago, but had a problem so I'll have to call them on Tuesday. On the payment page at the very bottom, there is a box that has the letters "CW" in it. I think this may be where the code on the rear of the credit card goes but I've never seen those letters before and I'm not going to put the code in some random box that doesn't really say what goes there.

                              Dang it, I wanted to get this rifle back to working asap as it's one of the .22lr rifles I have for my grandkids to shoot. It's also the only one that I have a mag loader for, which makes loading pretty fast. I don't know if there is one for the 10/22 or the M&P 15-22 and they are a PITA.

                              I'll post when I finally get this gun fixed.

                              ETA: I just found 4 different loaders for the M&P, ranging from about $6 to $23. I found one for the Ruger that is made by McFadden, the same company that makes the Ultimate Cliploader, which I use for my Ruger MK III. It's about $34.
                              Last edited by retired; 09-03-2018, 1:24 AM.

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                              • #30
                                retired
                                Administrator
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 9412

                                Ok, after much difficulty, I finally got the spring ordered from Midwest Gunworks, which is from the link provided by ARFrog. I had a lot of problems on their site attempting to order the spring. I ended up having to call and speak with them 4 separate times before it was successfully ordered.

                                When it arrives, I will take one of the 1 gallon freezer bags we have and put the safety together inside the bag...no more flying, lost springs. Hopefully it won't break when I install the guard into the receiver. I will report my success here. Yeah, you heard me; my success! I refuse to let the guard break after all this.

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