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  • #16
    RawHP
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 633

    Originally posted by ironhorse1
    The Mark 1 and the standard are two different pistols. Standard has fixed sights while the MK 1 will have adjustable sights.

    irh
    I think they're the same. In 1950 the target version was introduced, which had the adjustable sights. The other version(s) still had fixed sights.

    I don't think there was really a MK I until there was a "MK II". At least it wasn't stamped on the pistol after it came out, but not on the MK I.

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    • #17
      Robert1234
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2006
      • 3078

      I believe the MKI was the target version. Heavier barrels and adjustable sights. No Mark I markings on it, same lower receiver, just heavier, longer barrels and adjustable sights.

      Or I could be wrong and it could be something completely different.

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      • #18
        TMB 1
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2012
        • 7153

        Originally posted by Robert1234
        I got a longer (5.5" I believe) tapered Ruger Standard Pistol, made in 1967, in very good conditioni about three months ago for $360.00, with one magazine, no box or papers.

        I know there will be eighteen people telling you to "spend no more than $200.00 on one" or "I got one for $100.00", but good luck finding one for those prices.

        How bad do you want it? I didn't buy it to collect, so as long as it was in good shape (and it was other than in serious need of a deep cleaning) and shoots well, that's all I cared about. And if I could fine another in that price range locally, I'd buy it.

        I also got a High Standard HD-Military with a 4.5" barrel, in excellent condition for $400.00. No box, no papers, two magazines that work perfectly. Super accurate.

        Yes, I'm sure most of you wouldn't spend more than $150.00 for that, but good luck finding one in that condition for less than I spent.
        ^This^

        I did just about the same thing. Ruger Standard with 4.5" barrel in good condition with two mags and leather Hunter holster for $350 and an excellent condition High Standard HB 4.5" barrel with two mags and leather Hunter holster $450.

        If I was in a free state I probably could have found the Ruger for less, not sure about the High Standard HB.
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        • #19
          ironhorse1
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 1004

          I don't know why this is so hard. If one Googles Ruger just about anything one would need to know is out there.

          All early frames were A100 type and I believe that this was the case up until 1982 with the introduction of the MK 2.

          The MK I's were marked and had the safety warning roll marks probably sometime after 1974. I purchased my bull barrel model in 1982 the last year for the MK I. After that they incorporated the empty magazine hold open and the back of the slide was cut with finger grooves.



          irh

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          • #20
            ironhorse1
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 1004

            The Mark I Target was not marked Target as seen in the photo.

            There is a Mark II standard and a Mark II Target. There are lots of variations of barrel types and lengths and a few rare pricey models to be found.

            A Government Target model or a Standard model marked "Hecho En Mexico"

            will cost more. Find one with the red emblem on the grips and you have found a very early model.

            Having models in various barrel lengths, sight configurations and stainless models to boot with over three million made expect to find many choices.

            irh
            Last edited by ironhorse1; 03-11-2018, 1:38 PM.

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            • #21
              Robert1234
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 2006
              • 3078

              Originally posted by ironhorse1
              I don't know why this is so hard. If one Googles Ruger just about anything one would need to know is out there.

              All early frames were A100 type and I believe that this was the case up until 1982 with the introduction of the MK 2.

              The MK I's were marked and had the safety warning roll marks probably sometime after 1974. I purchased my bull barrel model in 1982 the last year for the MK I. After that they incorporated the empty magazine hold open and the back of the slide was cut with finger grooves.



              irh
              Well, like I said, I could be wrong. But in my defense, its not "completely" different.

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              • #22
                Robert1234
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 3078

                Originally posted by ironhorse1
                The Mark I Target was not marked Target as seen in the photo.

                There is a Mark II standard and a Mark II Target. There are lots of variations of barrel types and lengths and a few rare pricey models to be found.

                A Government Target model or a Standard model marked "Hecho En Mexico"

                will cost more. Find one with the red emblem on the grips and you have found a very early model.

                Having models in various barrel lengths, sight configurations and stainless models to boot with over three million made expect to find many choices.

                irh
                Government Target models have had asking prices in the $1,000.00 range when they show up in the Calguns For Sale forum.

                I'd like to have one, it not willing to p!$$ my money away for it.

                Hell everyone seems to thing "off roster" means these $350.00 guns have turned into gold. To those people I say "good luck with the sale".

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                • #23
                  TMB 1
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 7153

                  Originally posted by Robert1234
                  I believe the MKI was the target version. Heavier barrels and adjustable sights. No Mark I markings on it, same lower receiver, just heavier, longer barrels and adjustable sights.

                  Or I could be wrong and it could be something completely different.
                  Originally posted by Robert1234
                  Well, like I said, I could be wrong. But in my defense, its not "completely" different.
                  You was right. If it has MARK I stamped on it, it has adjustable rear sights, heavier barrel and same front sight as target model making it a target version.
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                  • #24
                    TMB 1
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 7153

                    Originally posted by Robert1234
                    Government Target models have had asking prices in the $1,000.00 range when they show up in the Calguns For Sale forum.

                    I'd like to have one, it not willing to p!$$ my money away for it.

                    Hell everyone seems to thing "off roster" means these $350.00 guns have turned into gold. To those people I say "good luck with the sale".
                    That seems like a crazy high price. The Government Target is one of the models that is worth more $. I wouldn't think that much, but more than $350 especially if in very good condition with box and proof target.

                    The first brand new 22lr handgun I bought after I turned 21 was a Government Target Model, it's still a tack driver and I still have it and will until I can't shoot it or die, then one of my grandchildren will get it.
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                    • #25
                      RawHP
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 633

                      Originally posted by ironhorse1
                      I don't know why this is so hard. If one Googles Ruger just about anything one would need to know is out there.

                      All early frames were A100 type and I believe that this was the case up until 1982 with the introduction of the MK 2.

                      The MK I's were marked and had the safety warning roll marks probably sometime after 1974. I purchased my bull barrel model in 1982 the last year for the MK I. After that they incorporated the empty magazine hold open and the back of the slide was cut with finger grooves.


                      irh
                      Got it. I think we're on different subjects. I saw the original post was on the Ruger Standard, which I believe meant the standard, whether MK I, MK II, MK III or MK IV means the fixed sight tapered barrel original configuration. You mentioned the MK I, and my comment was on the standard (meaning from the series standpoint, the "MK I" Standard was not marked that way). I agree that the MK I Target was marked, and was marketed under the name MK I Target Model.

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                      • #26
                        newbie1234
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 3121

                        Originally posted by Robert1234
                        Government Target models have had asking prices in the $1,000.00 range when they show up in the Calguns For Sale forum.

                        I'd like to have one, it not willing to p!$$ my money away for it.

                        Hell everyone seems to thing "off roster" means these $350.00 guns have turned into gold. To those people I say "good luck with the sale".
                        deal at Larrysguns .

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                        • #27
                          RawHP
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 633

                          Originally posted by Robert1234
                          Government Target models have had asking prices in the $1,000.00 range when they show up in the Calguns For Sale forum.

                          I'd like to have one, it not willing to p!$$ my money away for it.

                          Hell everyone seems to thing "off roster" means these $350.00 guns have turned into gold. To those people I say "good luck with the sale".
                          Originally posted by newbie1234
                          Are you teasing the poor guy?

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                          • #28
                            Chaos47
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 6615

                            Originally posted by ironhorse1
                            I don't know why this is so hard. If one Googles Ruger just about anything one would need to know is out there.

                            All early frames were A100 type and I believe that this was the case up until 1982 with the introduction of the MK 2.

                            The MK I's were marked and had the safety warning roll marks probably sometime after 1974. I purchased my bull barrel model in 1982 the last year for the MK I. After that they incorporated the empty magazine hold open and the back of the slide was cut with finger grooves.

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                            irh
                            Early frames are called A54 but are not marked that in any way. A54 only take "early" or A54 grips. These take magazines with the button on the right. You can use MKII and MKIII magazines in an A54 frame but you have to dissemble it and move the button to the right side.

                            They moved to A100 in 1971 and marked those frames with A100 under the grips on the left side.
                            A100 can take "late" MKI or MKII/III grips. They use MKII and MKIII magazines.


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