Noob That Needs Guidance

[keep6]

Hello everyone, I'm new to the world of rifles and about 3 days old here at Calguns. I stared a post in the center fire manual operations forum about my desire to buy a bolt action rifle. I got a lot of good feed back from getting a 22lr, to Appleseed or formal training, etc. My ultimate goal is to become a responsible and proficient sports hobby shooter from 200 to maybe 500 yards, and get into reloading. As for now I own a S&M sport 2 and I'm currently in the market for a 22Lr. I was scouring through the rimfire section and could not find any information on bolt action 22lr. Then half the time I didn't know if people were talking about the 22lr rifles or pistols. So I'm a bit lost in this section of the forum.

So my questions are could any of you refer me to some good 22lr bolt action rifles? I checked out several websites and the bolt action 22lr seems to not have many options compared to the semis. Guess the real question should be, when it comes to mostly indoor range practice does it matter if I use a semi or bolt action?
This may be a dumb question but I'm curious. Now it could have been my friends rifle, but did it sound like the bullets were ricocheting?
Also, are 22lr casing worth catching for when I get into reloading? Yes I bought a catch bag lol.

[WMG]

I never shot at an indoor range, that concept is pretty foreign to me.
I wouldn't save your 22lr cases but I would buy a bunch of it.
When I say a bunch ...... I mean a BUNCH
............ I like the Marlin bolt 22's but I am referring to the older ones.
Havn't had the need to buy a newer one for some time.
I have a MP 22lr that I like and would sort of match your sport ..... but it's a semi.
If you want bigger $$$ bolt 22's ..... perhaps the CZ 452-455 would be your choice

[ProtectThe2nd]

.22lr is not reloaded
Look into the CZ bolt action rifles for accuracy and quality

[Rosebud22]

.22lr is not reloaded
Look into the CZ bolt action rifles for accuracy and quality

^^ All of the above is correct. If on a budget, look at Ruger American Rimfire or
Savage bolt action rifle. Both are about $150 cheaper than a CZ out the door.

[nedro]

Go to rimfire central forum. 22 gets addictive.

[mnichols]

Welcome.

1. Buy .22 ammo. (I look for 5-7 cents per ounce for bulk, 8-10 cents per round for good stuff)
2. CZ, savage, marlin, ruger, old winchester are all good options.
I've always liked the idea of a bolt action and semi auto sharing mags, like a 10-22 and a ruger american. You can achieve this with marlins as well.
3. Buy ammo.
4. Take an Appleseed class.
5. Buy ammo.
6. Repeat steps 3,4, and 5.

Enjoy

[mrboma]

Welcome.

1. Buy .22 ammo. (I look for 5-7 cents per ounce for bulk, 8-10 cents per round for good stuff)
2. CZ, savage, marlin, ruger, old winchester are all good options.
I've always liked the idea of a bolt action and semi auto sharing mags, like a 10-22 and a ruger american. You can achieve this with marlins as well.
2.5 Buy and install Tech Sights
3. Buy ammo.
4. Take an Appleseed class.
5. Buy ammo.
6. Repeat steps 3,4, and 5.

Enjoy

mnichols nailed it. My only other suggestion is in bold.
The sights really do improve the rifles usability.


Regards,
Mike

[Canucky]

Op location will help form better answers. Maybe someone here can personally help you. As for rifle choices? What's your budget? For the last question, eye and ear protection.

[Mutant]

Buy once. Buy Anschutz and you will never look back.

[teh rick]

If you wanted a lower price but decent bolt action I'd look at the savage MKii series rifles, they are generally $200-$300.
next class is the CZ455 series in the $350-500 range.

I don't think many here will agree with me but I prefer lower power scopes to any type of sights i've tried or shot with. I have the same preference on all of my rifles, just not a fan of not having magnification but I'm not a great shot and I feel this helps compensate for my lack of skill.

[RNE228]

I agree about the CZ. But, you can also find nice older rifles on the used racks.

I shoot a Mossberg bolt that my dad got new in 1950; it is very accurate even thousands and thousands of rounds and years later...

Look into the CZ bolt action rifles for accuracy and quality

[Blade Gunner]

Buy lots of ammo, get some of the good stuff, store it properly. With the ammo restrictions on the way, you could easily shoot up you entire allowed purchase in one day. I'd plan to have at lease 10,000 rounds. The last ammo shortage took two years for 22 ammo to catch up.

[keep6]

Op location will help form better answers. Maybe someone here can personally help you. As for rifle choices? What's your budget? For the last question, eye and ear protection.

I'm from the SoCal, South Bay Area. Well here is the deal, rather honest truth. When I got my first rifle S&M Sports 2 it was mainly due to the upcoming msr ban, S&M being an All American company, huge pool of after market accessories, and the price was right. The rifles set me back about $825.00 after dros, the license exam, and taxes. I really wanted the colt Ar15 (A more reliable and trusted brand) but the pricing of the rifle itself was out of my comfort zone being a first time shooter at $900.00.
After shooting my friends Ruger bolt action 308 and Ar-10, at the Angeles Outdoor Ranges, I wanted one for myself. Initially I wanted the Ar10 due to the ban and knowing its a autoloading distace shooting rifle. Afterwards, however, I prefer the bolt action due to the less kicking. But then again, I really enjoyed the fact I wasn't bound to either the bench rest or prone position with the Ar10.
I figured since I was going to spend about $1,100 for the 308 those funds can go towards the 22lr rifle. Have eye and ear protection.

[keep6]

mnichols nailed it. My only other suggestion is in bold.
The sights really do improve the rifles usability.


Regards,
Mike

Yes, another user RNE228 told me about tech-sight. The conversation came up after I inquired about larger iron sights for my Ar15. Now I'm not one to swear but while at the outdoor ranges I could not make out any targets past 25 yards. Everything was blurry tying to aim using that tiny little circular sight hole past 25 yards. Someone, in my first posting said it was due to me using the scoped optics's on my friends rifle then transferring over to iron sights.
I went to the indoor range today and did some practice shooting with my S&M Sport 2. Yea, I was able to see a bit better so my aiming improved somewhat. However, I still feel as though I need super magnification glasses to see out of that tiny circular sight. I would say out of 50 shots I hit my intended target 12 times at about 25yards. This experience took me back to my experience at the outdoor range. It's like I can look up and visually see my intended target. I can see the bullseye. Now when I look through the tiny circular hole I can see my intended target but the bullseye disappears.

[keep6]

I agree about the CZ. But, you can also find nice older rifles on the used racks.

I shoot a Mossberg bolt that my dad got new in 1950; it is very accurate even thousands and thousands of rounds and years later...

When I went practice shooting today I inquired about older model rifles. One of the clerks told me I can try my luck at a pawn shop but I would be better off shopping online at a reputable gun auction site like gun brokers. Now, I'm not sure if I was told that due to the range being a ffl dealer or speaking from first or second person experience.