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Sent this one to Rem. and ask for a fresh Bucket!Originally posted by Kestryll:
It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants.... -
I looked at the casing a little more closely to diagnose what happened. To me, the bulge in the case indicates that the gun was not fully in battery when it went off. Most likely the bullet wasn't chambered completely, so the rear of the casing wasn't supported by the chamber, causing the bulging and then the rupture.
Like a fair number of semi-autos, Glocks probably being the most notable, there isn't a safety mechanism that keeps the hammer of Ruger MK II's, or 10/22's from falling when the bolt isn't fully foward (or slide locked, for centerfire semi-auto pistols). Other semi-autos, like Colt 45 ACP's etc. have a mechanism that disables the trigger when the slide is even a hint out of battery.
In this case, I suspect a couple of things could have caused the round not to fully chamber:
1. The chamber had enough crud in it that didn't allow the round to fully chamber. The pistol has at least 200 rounds through it, but was able to fire another couple hundred after this failure, so it doesn't look like the problem here. Also, although I'm in the camp of never cleaning the bore of a 22LR gun until accuracy drops off, I do always make a point of cleaning the chamber after every session to ensure reliable cycling.
2. The brass was slightly over sized on this round. This makes more sense, due to quality control on bulk ammo being lower, and Golden Bullets run on the larger diameter end of the spectrum. This is why they are not recommended for a match cut chamber, and sometimes even have issues with a target/benz cut chamber. No problems in a stock (loose) Ruger chamber though.
So my conclusion is that the primary issue is likely that the brass was over-sized and didn't fully chamber, and secondarily, the inherent issue of the Ruger action that allows the hammer to fall when the gun isn't fully in battery both contributed to the failure.
I'm going to take some measurements of the front/non-bulging portion of the casing to see how it compares to other rounds and spent casings, although that might not be conclusive, it may provide another clue.Last edited by RawHP; 04-29-2015, 9:27 AM.Comment
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Crazy.Comment
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I'm curious, what is that line or abrasion that runs around the diameter of the casing about 40% up from the rim?Comment
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Look like a OOB detonation...
Just guessing tho.
But yea your lucky it was just a 22. I wouldn't doubt it could happen with any. I shoot any 22 I can get my hands on, this day and age even more so. Even with CCI high grade stuff the charges very and QC on 22 is not the greatest. You what you pay for. $0.04 - $0.07 isn't much lol
I would have kept the case like you and kept shooting. Federal and GB you can always hear/feel lighter vs heavier charges. Id say usually more than half each mag I can count around 5 hotter or under charged rounds. Again just part of the downfall of cheap 22.Comment
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This happened to me with cheap Tula Crap 7.62x51 in my pre-ban Galil. It wasn't actually scary, some smoke, and nothing much after. The bullet barely got out of the barrel and I had to use a rod and mallet to push the case out.The Second Amendment ex-tends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding. - The United States Supreme CourtComment
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running 24/7 to keep up with demand is going to have some drawbacksRule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)
Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
(thanks to Jeff Cooper)Comment
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I think it's a characteristic of Remington Golden Bullet brass:
Probably other Remington 22LR too, since I saw a pic of Yellow Jackets with the same line of the brass.
In looking for this pic on the web, I saw another posting where someone had the same type of failure. His looked a little worse, but the same area by the base of the casing.Last edited by RawHP; 04-29-2015, 2:18 PM.Comment
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Looks like the gun went off out of battery. I had an OOB detonation about two weeks ago in my S&W M&P15-22. I'm with you, first thing that went through my mind was how lucky I was that it happened with a .22 and not a 5.56 or 7.62x51Comment
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This right here is why you should NEVER shoot Remington Golden Bullets. Instead ship them to me for proper disposal.
Only slaves don't need guns
We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the crossOriginally posted by epilepticninja
We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.
What doesn't kill me, better runComment
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Actually, in the name of safety, and providing more information and data, I'm going to take on the risk and sacrifice by shooting all of my Golden Bullets, plus any more I can snag up online or at Walmart and reporting back to the forum. I really need to do my part to protect the public; my way of giving back.Comment
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Respect the Golden Bullet
No.Life is hard. Being stupid makes it harder. - John WayneComment
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Last edited by Fishslayer; 04-29-2015, 5:31 PM."He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."
Originally Posted by JackRydden224
I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.Originally posted by redcliffA Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.
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