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  • AParsh135i
    Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 254

    First rifle - optic suggestions?

    Hey guys,
    I ordered my first rifle last week and can pick it up on Friday.
    It's an ACR Enhanced, so it has plenty of rails.

    I've been looking at different optics online and was curious about your opinions for use at a range (mostly 50yrd shooting, but will also be doing 100yrd shooting eventually).

    The 3 set ups i've seen the most are:
    1. Red dot / Holographic
    2. same as above, but with the flip to side 3x or 5x magnifier behind it.
    3. Magnified Red Dot
    4. Standard scope

    Keep in mind, im asking for advice on the best type of set up for the money for the 50-100yrd, not what is the best scope money can buy ever, what is the best brand/model, or what is the best scope for 1000yrd etc.

    Thanks guys!
    Last edited by AParsh135i; 10-15-2014, 3:37 PM. Reason: Added Magnified Red Dot per Bigbear's recommendation
  • #2
    bigbearbear
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2011
    • 5378

    The range I go to most frequently for shooting rifle is Los Altos Rod 7 Gun, their shooting distances is similar to what you have, 40 (tin can range), 50 and 100 yards. There's also a couple of 25 yards lanes but they're for sighting in only.

    For me, I went with a 1-4x red dot scope. Its like a red dot, but zooms from 1 to 4 power. It is the Mueller Speed shot.

    MAC has a review of it here, and he happened to be using a ACR too:

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    • #3
      AParsh135i
      Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 254

      Thanks for the quick reply bigbear. I googled that range and it looks badass! Wish it was close by. I'll check out that review when i get home (No youtube at work ). I saw they sell that site for about $200ish.

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      • #4
        lewdogg21
        Cattle Thieves Pro Staff
        • May 2009
        • 10369

        For just the range probably a red dot.
        Originally posted by jmonte35
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        • #5
          pterrell
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          • Aug 2013
          • 3576

          What's your budget?
          Magnified or Red dot?
          If magnified, fixed or variable?


          I do agree with lewdogg though. 50-100 yards you'd be fine with an Aimpoint or an EOtech.
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          • #6
            sunborder
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 1212

            At that range, no need for magnification, unless you have terrible eyes (like me), or you want to shoot tiny little groups (less than 1" at 100 yards). You can easily shoot 2-4 inch groups with iron sights at those ranges, or a red dot with a small 1-2 moa dot, using cheap ball ammo.

            If you must have a magnified optic, look into the primary arms 1-6x ACSS or 1-4x illuminated dot. Personally, for that range, I'd go with their MD-ADS sight when it comes back in stock. Eotech & Aimpoint are good, but it sounds like your rifle is primarily a range toy, if you're only shooting 50-100 yards, so that level of optic is probably overkill. Even for light to moderate field use, PA is plenty good enough. Unless you plan on repeatedly dropping your rifle onto the optic, taking it scuba diving for hours at a time, or running over it with a tank, an aimpoint is overkill.

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            • #7
              AParsh135i
              Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 254

              Originally posted by pterrell
              What's your budget?
              Magnified or Red dot?
              If magnified, fixed or variable?


              I do agree with lewdogg though. 50-100 yards you'd be fine with an Aimpoint or an EOtech.
              I would say i was planning on spending between $100-200ish. I was tempted by how good the reviews on the EOTech holographic red dots are, but they are also pretty damn expensive at $400. Do you guys think it's worth the extra $200 to get the Eotech and not mess with other stuff?

              I looked into that primary arms red dot and it's sold out at the moment.

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              • #8
                ExtremeX
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2010
                • 7160

                Originally posted by AParsh135i
                I would say i was planning on spending between $100-200ish. I was tempted by how good the reviews on the EOTech holographic red dots are, but they are also pretty damn expensive at $400. Do you guys think it's worth the extra $200 to get the Eotech and not mess with other stuff?

                I looked into that primary arms red dot and it's sold out at the moment.
                Yes, or an Aimpoint Pro

                I have the PA RDS units, few of them actually... personally I really dislike the heavy blue tint on the lenses, but, for the money they charge for the Micro, its a good value, regardless of how you slice it. I do use them on my plinkers / cheaper guns where spending money on more costly optics isn't warranted.
                ExtremeX

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                • #9
                  MongooseV8
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 4426

                  Bushnell TRS25 would be perfect for you. Small, light weight, good quality, nice dot, under $100.

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                  • #10
                    dinosauraphael
                    Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 199

                    Originally posted by AParsh135i
                    I would say i was planning on spending between $100-200ish. I was tempted by how good the reviews on the EOTech holographic red dots are, but they are also pretty damn expensive at $400. Do you guys think it's worth the extra $200 to get the Eotech and not mess with other stuff?

                    I looked into that primary arms red dot and it's sold out at the moment.

                    I'm currently running an exps 3-0 on my acr and I love the setup! I personally think the eotech is worth the extra cost, since it's build like a tank. I've also ran a vortex sparc ii on my Daniel defense and it worked really well. But i was able to score a deal on a eotech 512, so I returned the sparc.

                    As someone mentioned the bushnell trs25 along with primary arms are great options for under $100. I have no problems with my trs 25 on my 10/22.
                    Last edited by dinosauraphael; 10-23-2014, 2:45 AM.

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                    • #11
                      AParsh135i
                      Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 254

                      I found 3 different local guys on craigslist selling eotech 552's for $300 or less, so i'm going to work on getting that first. If that all falls through I'm leaning toward that bushnell. I figure for $77 amazon prime if i dont like it i can resell it or move it to another future gun.

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                      • #12
                        MrSam
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 1091

                        Your call. For my AR I went with a PA 1-4x24 scope. I tried a few red dots but kept going back to the scope.

                        My 22lr has a Prostaff 3-9x, sitting up top

                        Both scopes were under $100 used (PA was $90 I believe, ProStaff was $80)

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                        • #13
                          JMP
                          Internet Warrior
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 17056

                          Originally posted by AParsh135i
                          Hey guys,
                          I ordered my first rifle last week and can pick it up on Friday.
                          It's an ACR Enhanced
                          , so it has plenty of rails.

                          I've been looking at different optics online and was curious about your opinions for use at a range (mostly 50yrd shooting, but will also be doing 100yrd shooting eventually).

                          The 3 set ups i've seen the most are:
                          1. Red dot / Holographic
                          2. same as above, but with the flip to side 3x or 5x magnifier behind it.
                          3. Magnified Red Dot
                          4. Standard scope

                          Keep in mind, im asking for advice on the best type of set up for the money for the 50-100yrd, not what is the best scope money can buy ever, what is the best brand/model, or what is the best scope for 1000yrd etc.

                          Thanks guys!
                          For this as your first rifle, the best optical gear you can get is a set of A2 iron sights. If it's your first rifle, learn the fundamentals, forget about what you see other folks doing at the range.

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                          • #14
                            Jimmybacon43
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 2000

                            Originally posted by JMP
                            For this as your first rifle, the best optical gear you can get is a set of A2 iron sights. If it's your first rifle, learn the fundamentals, forget about what you see other folks doing at the range.
                            But it has plenty of rail space........
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                            • #15
                              Cowboy T
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 5725

                              Sounds like a standard scope in 2-7x33 would be a good choice for this application. There are several good options in the stated price range. I haven't used a Burris Fullfield II or a Vortex Viper, but they've both gotten good reviews. I know Redfield's Revolution is a good choice. Nikon ProStaffs are also good choices, based on looking through a buddy's example. I know some folks kinda dog Leupold's Rifleman since it isn't multicoated, but it does do the job and is affordable.

                              None of these will likely get you out to 1,000, but you're not shooting that far, so no problem there. A 2-7x33 got me on paper at 500, and they are still clear as a bell at even 15, so they'll definitely handle your 50-100.
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