Ta01 NSN

[Super Chicken]

Gents, I have some "free money" coming to me that needs to get spent on gun stuff. For many years the Trijicon Ta01 NSN has been on my one of these days list, well that day is here.

Now of course the other ACOG models are also looking good. This will not be on a fighting rifle. Use will be range, yote hunting, and general operator bad arseness.

Those of you who have used one what are your thoughts, likes, ect. I really like the peep sights. How spot on are they?

Thank you on advance.

[nitroxdiver]

They are nowhere near spot on. They are crude at best. The scope is great though. You'd be better off getting the one with the rmr on top instead of the sights IMO. I have one and like it a lot, the sights are useless to me though. One of these days I'll pull off the rear peep sight and install an rmr. Check out 4scopes.com for some awesome acog pricing..


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[Super Chicken]

Cool, thank you. That's not a bad idea.

[Standard]

I've also been looking at the NSN model for an A4 clone since they are significantly cheaper than the chevron and other models with the fiber optic.
The only thing holding me back is reticle preference and closer up style shooting.

[OpticsPlanet]

I picked up an NSN a few years ago. I was issued a TA3F1 while in the Army and wanted an ACOG on my personnel AR. I went with the NSN due to price. It is a great sight, but not at the level of the TA31F. The fiber optics and chevron reticle make a pretty big difference in my opinion. Its not that its hard to get on target quickly with the NSN, it is just not as "fast" as the TA31F... If I could do it over again, I would have held off to get the TA31F. That was 6 or so years ago, now I would get the RCO...

Chase B.

[brando]

I was issued the NSN model many years ago, before the fibre optic models were RFId into the system and later issued. The NSN is rather simple with a cross hair BDC calibrated to M855 out of an M4, if I recall. The crude irons were just something we asked for to make a more of an "entire package." Mind you, at the time we were either running Aimpoint 1000s with no magnification or ACOGs. As said earlier, they're very much "minute of man" and simply designed to give you good enough sight alignment on close targets. None has the speed you get from an RDS, though if you could replace those crude irons with an RMR (like some of the newer models), you'd really get the best of both worlds. The BDC is simple but works as advertised. In Iraq I had a rangecard on the roof of our house with the alleys and streets marked based on the BDC drops - worked every time.

[Super Chicken]

Thank you Gentlemen. Much food for thought.

The iron sights main use would be for night shots while camping/backpacking. In the unlikely case of some animal getting too frisky. I'm looking for minute of gut at about 50 yards.

To be fair I dont see me needing it but I confess that they look cool.

@Presscheck I would be very intrested in your 25 & 50 yard results on that rouge plate.

Once again thanks for the replies guys I'll post what I end up with in the next few weeks.

[goodlookin1]

Having used both, I can tell you that the NSN is nowhere near as useful as a TA31F, or any ACOG with the Fiber/Tritium combo.

Just spend a little more and get a fiber based version.....you'll thank us later.

[nitroxdiver]

Ta01 NSN

The iron sights main use would be for night shots while camping/backpacking. In the unlikely case of some animal getting too frisky.

Then add a DBAL I2 green or OTAL-A green.
Cant your rifle 45 degrees left, hit the fire button on your laser, paint the critter, press the trigger, and anchor it.



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[POINTMANDDT]

I've owned pretty much every acog out there and I can tell you the elcan Spectra DR is leaps beyond in clarity and function for me. It's a bit more pricey, but can be found in the secondary market for less.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/136723/elcan-specterdr-tactical-rifle-scope-1x4x-32mm-switch-power-illuminated-556-ballistic-crosshair-reticle-matte-with-arms-throw-lever-picatinny-stye-mount#ReviewHeader

[Press Check]

I've owned pretty much every acog out there and I can tell you the elcan Spectra DR is leaps beyond in clarity and function for me. It's a bit more pricey, but can be found in the secondary market for less.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/136...t#ReviewHeader

Good grief. Elcan's are heavy!

[brando]

Not to mention the whole zero shift thing...

[sunborder]

I really like the TA-31F. The fiber is really nice for daytime work, and if your eyes are adjusted to darkness, the tritium really works well. For night shooting at close range, though, honestly, a 45 mount reflex, 45 mount irons or the like are a better solution, or even a laser sight. I don't really see a point to an ACOG without the fiber/tritium, though.

For the irons, I would guess it kind of depends on your ammo, barrel length, intended target, etc...That's why I like the 45 mounts...you can sight them in for a different range than your primary optic. I don't think you can do that with the NSN.

I've found the ACOG to be more of a combat type optic than a precision optic. Mine has been sitting on a DMR rifle so it's not really the best for what I'm using it for.

If you are looking for a TA-31F lightly used, I have one with an ADM mount, killflash, and flip caps I am thinking about selling. I just upgraded to something I like better for that SPR/DMR type rifle (higher magnification).

[YellowG555]

I have the TA31 ECOS with green reticle and can hit the 600 yard steel plates at Angeles with decent accuracy with 5.56, depending on wind. At 100-400 yards, I can hit the steel plates with nearly every shot I take.

I would have to agree with previous posters in that you will want the fiber and tritium. The fiber makes the reticle pop in the day time, and every time a friend uses it, they are always amazed.

[POINTMANDDT]

Good grief. Elcan's are heavy!

It is a bit heavy, but once you see the glass, it's worth it. It's not much more than the Acog ECOS I had. As far as holding the zero, when I had it on my scar 16 I took it off three times to test the zero and it was sub moa every time. My last group was 1/2 moa. So mine at least holds its zero.

I had another one on my AR that had a problem with the elevation wheel. I sent it back and they replaced it immediately. Weight, arms levers and price are usually the biggest complaints with the elcan. However, trijicon has the best customer service I have ever experienced.