Mini reflex sights?

[anti]

Hi, I was looking at picking up a miniature reflex sight to throw on rifles and pistols whenever I feel like. I know the Trijicon is a good one but it's pretty darn expensive. Who makes a decent mini reflex sight at a lower price? I know a few companies make them but I was looking at the Primary Arms one; only issue is they're out of stock and have been for a while. Aside from Trijicon, who makes a good one?

Thanks!

[supermario]

I think I read Burris Fastfires are pretty good. See them a lot on all sorts of weapons.

I don't own one though, so I'm just repeating what I read and see

[Droppin Deuces]

The Burris is the best you will find under $400 or so.

[Munny$hot]

Docter III have been torture tested to be tougher than the rmr. The housing withstood more pressure etc. The Docter II are pretty tough and can be bought for @ 200 new. The II where the back up dots that most door kickers ran on top of their ACOGS before Trigicon came out with the RMR. The RMR, Docter, PA, and FastFire use the same mounting platform.

[OpticsPlanet]

The FastFire is a good product at half the price of Leupold's Deltapoint.

The FastFire II is still available, but the III adds some worthwhile improvements. The FastFire II has auto-adjusting brightness, but no presets. the FastFire III has auto-adjusting brightness, PLUS preset brightnesses. The FastFire II must be removed for a battery change, the battery on the FastFire III can be changed without removing the optic.

FastFire II:

http://www.opticsplanet.com/burris-fastfire-w-picatinny-mount-4-moa-dot-mat-fastfire-sight.html

FastFire III:

http://www.opticsplanet.com/burris-fastfire-iii-red-dot-reflex-sight-w-optional-picatinny-mount.html

DeltaPoint 3.5 dot:

http://www.opticsplanet.com/leupold-deltapoint-reflex-sight-matte-3-5-moa-dot.html

DeltaPoint 7.0 dot:

http://www.opticsplanet.com/leupold-deltapoint-reflex-sight-matte-7-5-moa-dot.html

Mark H.

[caliberetta]

Hi, I was looking at picking up a miniature reflex sight to throw on rifles and pistols whenever I feel like. I know the Trijicon is a good one but it's pretty darn expensive. Who makes a decent mini reflex sight at a lower price? I know a few companies make them but I was looking at the Primary Arms one; only issue is they're out of stock and have been for a while. Aside from Trijicon, who makes a good one?

Thanks!

Response to emphasized portion:

I believe the Primary Arms Reflex Sight ($80) has never been in stock, its a new item and the page states ETA: June 2014.

When they do that, I think it's so that they can describe what's coming, gather email notification requests to anticipate demand and send out the emails to interested customers when it becomes available.
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[anti]

Response to emphasized portion:

I believe the Primary Arms Reflex Sight ($80) has never been in stock, its a new item and the page states ETA: June 2014.

When they do that, I think it's so that they can describe what's coming, gather email notification requests to anticipate demand and send out the emails to interested customers when it becomes available.
.

Okay gotcha. They made it seem like they were sold out and were waiting on a new shipment from their supplier. Weird.

[falconman515]

Any updates here?

Anyone buy one of these optics?

Looking to buy one for my new M&P9 Pro CORE but not gonna be spending 400+ dollar son something like that .. now way.

Tossing around the Burris FastFire III for the about $225 price tag. PA has theirs in stock for 90 bucks now but I can't detail on it at all from them on quality, whether it will mount using handgun mounting plates etc. so that worries me (not to mention at 90 bucks it;s gotta be VERY low quality, but I have their 4X Prism scope that's an ACOG knock off at $270 and it's STELLAR so who knows).

The DeltaPoint is an option but man spending almost 400 bucks on something like is NUTS to me ... it's the cost of a new damn gun really ... just way overpriced IMHO.

I was gonna create a new thread talking about Handgun (especially those with M&P CORE) mounted optics but I figured I would try and piggy back off something like this to get more info (don;t want to create to many threads, people get grumpy when that happens).

So anyone tried any of these optics on their optic ready (or milled etc.) handguns at all?

[tonyxcom]

Just remember putting a mrds on a centerfire handgun slide is about as violent as it gets for handheld weapons and you really get what you pay for.

You can cheap out if you are putting it on a rifle, but not a pistol.

[kel-tec-innovations]

Burris Fast Fire. Works great on my .308 rifle and .40S&W pistol. Holds zero.

[falconman515]

Just remember putting a mrds on a centerfire handgun slide is about as violent as it gets for handheld weapons and you really get what you pay for.

You can cheap out if you are putting it on a rifle, but not a pistol.

I know cheapies like on eBay or Amazon are not good ... but the ones I have talked about like the FastFire III and especially Leupold DeltaPoint are FAR From cheaping out!!!

Aside form the RMR really the most highly regarded and rated for centerfire handguns seems to really be the DeltaPoint ... so not sure why you think that is cheap.

I just think a Trijicon is the price of a new gun ... I would never fathom spending that kind of money on a optic for a gun I shoot at the rnage and do zero competition, fast firing, etc. etc .... just a weekend range warrior is all ... doubt I have zero issues with either.

Thanks thought for your reply.

Burris Fast Fire. Works great on my .308 rifle and .40S&W pistol. Holds zero.

I have seen many good results like you have replied with ... seems like most don't like how high it sits but really doubt that has to be a major issue ... how doe it feel for you with the extra height? is your slide on your S&W .40 milled or sitting on top higher?

[tonyxcom]

The DeltaPoint is an option but man spending almost 400 bucks on something like is NUTS to me ... it's the cost of a new damn gun really ... just way overpriced IMHO.

I know cheapies like on eBay or Amazon are not good ... but the ones I have talked about like the FastFire III and especially Leupold DeltaPoint are FAR From cheaping out!!!

Aside form the RMR really the most highly regarded and rated for centerfire handguns seems to really be the DeltaPoint ... so not sure why you think that is cheap.

I just think a Trijicon is the price of a new gun ... I would never fathom spending that kind of money on a optic for a gun I shoot at the rnage and do zero competition, fast firing, etc. etc .... just a weekend range warrior is all ... doubt I have zero issues with either.

Thanks thought for your reply.

I made the comment to you because you've complaining about the price of the Deltapoint in your first post. Sounds like you have no intention on spending the money for something good. Then in your second post you complain about the DP and RMR and how you would never spend that kind of money. And then ask me "how is that cheaping out?". LOL.

The DP and RMR are the most highly regarded MRDS for slide mounting and even those can still have problems on occasion. Earlier RMR's were known for crapping out but newer production units have beefed up electronics.

If this were a 22 or rifle the cheaper ones are fine, range handguns too, but make sure you get a good warranty or one that isn't void by slide mounting on a centerfire pistol.

[falconman515]

The FastFire and DeltaPoint are all I'm considering (not complaining) ... ya the DP is pretty high in price but can be had for less then 400 so still a possibility, just not in the price range I would like to be which the FFIII falls into.

But your reply implies the FastFire III is in the category of cheap ... just curious why you think that and other then a little higher how is the DP better then the FF in reality?

If I didn't have intentions on spending money on something good I would just buy a SightMark or another cheapy eBay amazon deal and waste money.
I'm wanting to spend more on better quality and something "Good" ... not something that a guy would use at a crazy competition or something like an RMR and spend 600 bucks on it.

I thought the Burris or Leupold was in the category of "spending money on something good" ... "LOL" (my second post was not about the DP is was the RMR).

Burris FastFire seems to have a nice warranty and based on their description is okay for slide mounting these optics, here is theri description .............

FastFire sights are light, small and tough, placing a powerful bright red dot on your target. They’re perfect as a primary sight or paired on top of an existing optic or laser. The electronics and chassis are built tough to handle the abuse of competition and hunting. All FastFire sights are waterproof and shockproof and covered by the Forever Warranty. A wide variety of mounting options let you equip your favorite rifles and pistols with a fast-action FastFire.

I'm just trying to justify the Way higher price tag on the DeltaPoint and haven't seen or heard enough to do so is all.

[RuggedJay]

L3/Eotech MRDS

[ExtremeX]

I never did end up buying a MRDS, but when I was shopping the Vortex Razor did look very appealing.

Still not cheap, but looks like an option that fits between the Fastfire and the RMR.

If I bought the optics for keeps, Vortex lifetime warranty was also a selling point. Trijicon only has 5 years on the electronics.

http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/razor-red-dot-3-moa-dot/reticle