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  • JoeJinKY
    Banned
    • Oct 2011
    • 851

    Am I asking for the impossible?

    It seems to me that with all of these computers, and fiber optics and everything else, it should not be necessary to crane your head over to peer through a scope to see your target either in cross hairs or beyond some floating red dot.

    WHY doesn't the firearms optics industry come up with a set of glasses that is connected to a rifle "scope" either wired or wireless, that will allow you to hold your rifle, point it at your target and see the precise point where the round will hit through the glasses?

    Has someone already invented something like this?
  • #2
    <IXOYE><
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 662

    Google is actually working on that...
    VETERANLEO

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    • #3
      tonyxcom
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2011
      • 6397

      All of this is possible but likely still cost prohibitive to bring to the commercial market. They have been doing this in Apache helicopters for many years now.

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      • #4
        bohoki
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 20825

        little ccd cameras are cheap as dirt now not sure why someone doesn't rig one up with a reticle and a glasses mount display


        i personally would love it if they could make a companion to the device where you could set up a little laser to paint the target then when you bring the gun on target it fires automatically when aligned

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        • #5
          NordicDave
          Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 203

          Originally posted by bohoki
          little ccd cameras are cheap as dirt now not sure why someone doesn't rig one up with a reticle and a glasses mount display


          i personally would love it if they could make a companion to the device where you could set up a little laser to paint the target then when you bring the gun on target it fires automatically when aligned
          As an engineer, the punishment electronics take while on a firearm of any kind is brutal. Semi-conductors can only withstand a certain amount of G-force shock (recoil) within a range of temperature conditions that are problematic for any longevity.

          Low cost commercial parts are commonly not up to the task.

          This is part of the reason why it is taking FOREVER to see scopes with integrated laser rangefinders. We are just now starting to see these, but at crazy prices and no real-world field reports for reliability.

          -NordicDave

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          • #6
            SJgunguy24
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2008
            • 14849

            Originally posted by NordicDave
            As an engineer, the punishment electronics take while on a firearm of any kind is brutal. Semi-conductors can only withstand a certain amount of G-force shock (recoil) within a range of temperature conditions that are problematic for any longevity.

            Low cost commercial parts are commonly not up to the task.

            This is part of the reason why it is taking FOREVER to see scopes with integrated laser rangefinders. We are just now starting to see these, but at crazy prices and no real-world field reports for reliability.

            -NordicDave
            I was just gonna say the tech is there, but withstanding recoil, in the freezing rain, at altitude, being dropped, while getting great battery life, for under 200$ isn't going to happen for a long time.
            There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
            The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
            The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
            The others, well......they just never learn.

            "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
            Patrick Henry.

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            • #7
              digdug74
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 1042

              Originally posted by JoeJinKY
              It seems to me that with all of these computers, and fiber optics and everything else, it should not be necessary to crane your head over to peer through a scope to see your target either in cross hairs or beyond some floating red dot.

              WHY doesn't the firearms optics industry come up with a set of glasses that is connected to a rifle "scope" either wired or wireless, that will allow you to hold your rifle, point it at your target and see the precise point where the round will hit through the glasses?

              Has someone already invented something like this?
              Military has been screwing around with that idea for years with their "land warrior" concept. However, when you're getting rather ridiculous results like this



              it's no wonder we haven't seen the commercial market jump on board in any sort of significant way.

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              • #8
                Droppin Deuces
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2010
                • 5969

                I actually have an idea for a relatively inexpensive solution. I just don't understand why anyone would want to look at a video monitor instead of actually shouldering their rifle and looking through a scope
                sigpic

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                • #9
                  keenkeen
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2011
                  • 6782

                  I'm still waiting for the technology that will allow us to correctly predict when riots will and will not occur. Until that point we are lost...
                  "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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                  • #10
                    ScottsBad
                    Progressives Suck!
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • May 2009
                    • 5610

                    One time for fun, I took a board camera and mounted it behind an EOTech. I connected the camera to a small 3.5 inch screen. I could see around corners and aim without looking through the sights.

                    But as others have said it would have to be made to handle the recoil and environmental factors that my little toy could not.
                    sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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                    • #11
                      bohoki
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 20825

                      Originally posted by ScottsBad
                      One time for fun, I took a board camera and mounted it behind an EOTech. I connected the camera to a small 3.5 inch screen. I could see around corners and aim without looking through the sights.

                      But as others have said it would have to be made to handle the recoil and environmental factors that my little toy could not.
                      a go pro is surprisingly durable if it only had a video out and a reticle

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                      • #12
                        tad13070
                        Junior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 7

                        Look at the Tracking Point system / Xactsystem.
                        The scope works with an ipad or iphone.
                        Starting price thought for the system$20,000
                        But you won't miss a shot ever again!!!,

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                        • #13
                          morthrane
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 954

                          Asking for a bit too much IMHO.

                          There's lower hanging fruit, like having scopes with built-in camera sensors with standardized output leads to use ancillary equipment. Or maybe scope bodies that have both a FFP and SFP reticules. First plane uses a normal reticule, and the second plane reticule is just a dot/diamond with quick turn knobs to use for holdover. Or maybe just a plain red dot emitter.

                          A good built-in camera sensor would be an amazing tool in its own right, if it was flexible enough to do relatively high speed FPS.

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                          • #14
                            Carnivore
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1813

                            Because the only real reasons for it would be firing from concealment, a shooter that is disabled and can't bend their head etc, some someone extremely lazy. Past that why wouldn't you want to bend your head over and look though a scope. It is freaking awesome.
                            sigpic

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                            • #15
                              teflondog
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 4011

                              If you don't want to look through a scope or RDS, maybe you can just mount a laser?
                              Originally posted by G. Michael Hopf
                              Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.

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