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  • Ron Swanson
    Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 311

    How to zero without a rear elevation knob

    I need to zero in my AR-15. It only has iron sights with the rear being the ProMag PM136 flip-up sight.



    When I look at the instructions to zero in at 25-yards it says to set the rear sight to 8/3, but this sight doesn't have an elevation knob, only a windage dial.

    Ideally, I'd like to zero it in at 50-yards. Is the lack of this feature imperative to properly zeroing it in?
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    Merc1138
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19742

    Originally posted by Ron Swanson
    I need to zero in my AR-15. It only has iron sights with the rear being the ProMag PM136 flip-up sight.



    When I look at the instructions to zero in at 25-yards it says to set the rear sight to 8/3, but this sight doesn't have an elevation knob, only a windage dial.

    Ideally, I'd like to zero it in at 50-yards. Is the lack of this feature imperative to properly zeroing it in?
    So adjust your zero using your front sight.

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    • #3
      tnlrat37
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 2166

      ^^^what he said, your front sight post should move up or down with a tool or even the tip of a 5.56 round. 8/3 is elevation on m16a2 rear sights for either 300 or 800 meters depending on if you rotate it 360 degrees if I remember right
      "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

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        teflondog
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 4011

        I use spent 5.56 brass to adjust the front sight.
        Originally posted by G. Michael Hopf
        Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.

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        • #6
          Ron Swanson
          Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 311

          I understand I can adjust the front sight. My concern is to zero it at 25-yards I'm supposed to adjust the rear to 8/3. When I move it back a click I am then zeroed for 300-yards too. I suppose, I will only be able to zero it at one distance.

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          • #7
            ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            your sights don't have an 8/3, so you can't use those directions. you have Backup Iron sights which are designed for "backup" "close enough" work. those sights that have the 8/3 knob are designed to be used a primary sights and are adjustable for various ranges. with BUIS, you just sigth them for something like 100yards and forget about them unless you need them. at that point, you just hold high if you have to shoot farther.
            Jack



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            • #8
              mark501w
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 1699

              Back to the 60's elevation of the front blade!

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              • #9
                Ron Swanson
                Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 311

                Originally posted by ke6guj
                your sights don't have an 8/3, so you can't use those directions. you have Backup Iron sights which are designed for "backup" "close enough" work. those sights that have the 8/3 knob are designed to be used a primary sights and are adjustable for various ranges. with BUIS, you just sigth them for something like 100yards and forget about them unless you need them. at that point, you just hold high if you have to shoot farther.
                Ah, I didn't know that, makes perfect sense now. Thanks!

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                • #10
                  Munny$hot
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 3665

                  Zero at 50/200 like you mentioned and you'll either be 1 1/2" low @ 25m or @ 1 1/2" high ar 100
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                  • #11
                    JohnFLand
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 959

                    If you think about bullet arcs, you always have *2* zero points, the close one being on the upward slope and the far one being on the downward slope (unless you somehow zero on the tangent). Where those two zero points are depends mostly on the ballistics of your ammo.

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