EOTECH VS ACOG

[TROYSD]

i have a rem r-15 rifle , 223. right now i have a nikon 3-9 scope, i was thinking of a eotech {which model i dont know ) or a acog ta31. has anyone used both?

[MrPlink]

very different in dynamics and purpose.
How do you intend to use the rifle?

If you want super quick snap shots and closer range, the Eotech is king.
The acog at the end of the day is really just a scope, albeit a very tough and versatile one.

[brando]

Different strokes for different folks. The EOTech dominates up close with it's 65 MOA ring and 1 MOA dot. That big ring gets you on target quickly and the dot is small enough to engage at 200m. The ring is also good for leading lateral moving targets.

The ACOG is magnified, so it's much slower getting on target up close (unless you train the occluded eye method) but is good for IDing and pinging targets out to 400m.

If you're going for precision - get an ACOG. If you're focusing on 300-400m targets, get an ACOG. If you're mostly shooting inside of 100m and want to run and gun- get an EOTech

[HK Dave]

You need to tell us what you're using it for.

[tacticalcity]

These are generalizations, but they come in handy.

Urban enviorment where all the shots are under 50 yards and most are at conversation distances the Red Dot Rules as magnification gets in the way.

Rural or open battle field enviorment where the distances really begin to open up the ACOG really has its place and makes things a little easier.

Long distance precision shooting 10x or more comes in really handy as does a larger round with flatter ballistics like the .308.

Plinking on a range, whatever floats your boat will work.

[TROYSD]

It is more of a long range rifle, so sounds like the acog. im going to build another with a shorter barrel and stock, so that might be more for a eotech
thanks

[45R]

ACOG for distance. Aimpoint for CQB

[stix213]

Eotech 557 with 3x quick flip out magnifier ftw? Love that setup on my AR. I'd like to say best of both worlds, but I have no hands on ACOG experience so that would be presumptuous.

[Uriah02]

ACOG for distance. Aimpoint for CQB

+1

[Uriah02]

Eotech 557 with 3x quick flip out magnifier ftw? Love that setup on my AR. I'd like to say best of both worlds, but I have no hands on ACOG experience so that would be presumptuous.

A) That setup is about $200 more than an ACOG, granted it is nice to be able to switch between the two.
B) If medium-long range is the primary purpose no need to have a CQB optic.
C) Batteryless ACOGs FTW!

[krnrspd]

I have both Eotech 511.a65 and an Acog TA31rcoA4

The Eotech is absolutely untouchable in a situation where you need a lightweight carbine, fast target acquisition 100 yards or less and you have a steady supply of batteries - oh and you don't have astigmatism (my friends who have this problem claim the hologram is distractingly fuzzy). if the average human being is 5'5", then that equals the 65 moa circle on the eotech. if the donut of death covers the target they are approximately ~100yds, likewise you can infer if the height of the target only reaches the 1 moa dot, then they are approximately 200yds out.

If you are in a combat environment, where you don't know if you have kick down doors or put bad guys away at up to 600m and you have no clue when you may get batteries, i'd take the Acog (and you are sort of clumsy with your hardware).

once you are trained on the acog reticle and your brain is trained on the BAC, engagements from 0-600m is cake. assuming avg man's shoulder is 19"; line up the crosshair that fits within the target's shoulders and squeeze the trigger

[tacticalcity]

I have both Eotech 511.a65 and an Acog TA31rcoA4

The Eotech is absolutely untouchable in a situation where you need a lightweight carbine, fast target acquisition 100 yards or less and you have a steady supply of batteries - oh and you don't have astigmatism (my friends who have this problem claim the hologram is distractingly fuzzy). if the average human being is 5'5", then that equals the 65 moa circle on the eotech. if the donut of death covers the target they are approximately ~100yds, likewise you can infer if the height of the target only reaches the 1 moa dot, then they are approximately 200yds out.

If you are in a combat environment, where you don't know if you have kick down doors or put bad guys away at up to 600m and you have no clue when you may get batteries, i'd take the Acog (and you are sort of clumsy with your hardware).

once you are trained on the acog reticle and your brain is trained on the BAC, engagements from 0-600m is cake. assuming avg man's shoulder is 19"; line up the crosshair that fits within the target's shoulders and squeeze the trigger

Once you start knocking down doors the ACOG is a liability, however.

[Doctawho]

A nice compromise might be a 1-4x variable power scope. It will weigh as much as a an Eotech/magnifier combo but will have a sharper reticle with magnification.

[kmrtnsn]

I would recommend the Aimpoint T-1 or H-1 (own both) or the new Aimpoint Pro over any model Eotech. We have the Eotechs on our patrol rifles (552's) and have had nothing but problems with the battery compartments. I have never, ever seen such a high incidence of Alkaline battery ruptures as I have inside the Eotech battery compartments of our duty rifles. Why are we having this problem? I'm not sure. Is it the high pressure put on the batteries by the Eotech battery compartment design, is it the longitudinal shock of full auto fire on the batteries? All I know is that we have had lots of problems with Eotechs, none of which I have had with my own Aimpoints.

[krnrspd]

I would recommend the Aimpoint T-1 or H-1 (own both) or the new Aimpoint Pro over any model Eotech. We have the Eotechs on our patrol rifles (552's) and have had nothing but problems with the battery compartments. I have never, ever seen such a high incidence of Alkaline battery ruptures as I have inside the Eotech battery compartments of our duty rifles. Why are we having this problem? I'm not sure. Is it the high pressure put on the batteries by the Eotech battery compartment design, is it the longitudinal shock of full auto fire on the batteries? All I know is that we have had lots of problems with Eotechs, none of which I have had with my own Aimpoints.

what kind of batteries are you putting in your eotech and how long have they been sitting on the shelf. i've had instances of Duracell Procells leak on me (not in my eotech) because they had just been sitting around way too long

i have a 511 a65 which uses the n cells, I prefer that form factor as it is a bit smaller and takes up less real estate on the rail and haven't had a single issue