which acog and why you acog gurus/ I got pics for you now

[ADAM]

i got the best acog for me ta11f red chevron

[Sumo99]

i got the best acog for me ta11f red chevron

Nice!!! I had a really hard time choosing between the TA11 and TA33. Then trying to decide which reticle. Then which color reticle. There are almost too many options. Anyway congratulations and enjoy it.

[tacticalcity]

The most popular ACOG are the 4X models. Which is funny when you think about it, because it is not the most practical sight for most civilians or law enforcement. A sexy looking optic indeed, but not the best option for what they actually do the majority of the time.

It has a nitch area where it is the 100% ideal option, and that is on the open battle field where the majority of your shots are going to be 100-300 yard range and you need the ability to rapidly engage multiple targets rather than laying in wait like with a traditional sniper scope. In places like Africa (open plains), Afghanistan (mountain ranges), and other areas where you are not likely to get right on top of your enemy before having to engage them (much of the time) then it is a really great choice.

That does not translate all that well to the majority of civilian applications. People want them because they look really cool. But they do more to limit you than help you when it comes to the way most of use our rifles.

Take home defense. For CQB work, where your shots range 5-50 yards, magnification is a no-go. It slows you WAY down. You really should be running a red dot or reflex tritium optic at 1X. Yes there are ACOGs that are 1X but the price tag sends people running to red dots. Yes you can put a Doctor sight on your ACOG but it is not only expensive but very difficult to use due to height over bore issues. Where you aim is way off from where the point of impact is so you end up slowing down because off all the calculations you are doing in your head. So 1X is king when it comes to home defense, CQB, and those of us living in an urban environment.

For range work, 100-1000 yards 4X is very limited. It is only slightly better than no magnification at all. If you had to run a fixed power scope and variable power was not an option 10X makes the job much easier. A variable scope is much more enjoyable and offers much more flexibility. It is not that a skilled shooter is useless with it, it is just that it is still very hard work, especially as you get further and further out.

I can imagine how hunters of certain types of game would benefit from a 4X scope. With most animals you are going to get so close without spooking them. In certain enviorments things like trees and underbrush mean you are not going to be able to take them from great distances either. So a low fixed power sight with an easy to pickup reticle would work well. If the animal starts to move you can follow it very easily at that low power without getting lost in your scope. But lets face it, that is a very small nitch market.

I can also see how a rancher living in a rural area having to deal with predators messing with his herd/flock would benefit from a 4X ACOG. Often times he'll spot the preditor from a distance and only have seconds to take a shot while that preditor bobs and weaves through the terrain or his herd/flock. Especially if he his patrolling his land on horseback or by vehicle. But again, that is a tiny nitch market as well. Even he would probably do better with something variable.

Don't get me wrong. Trijicon is a great company and they make quality products. All I am saying is about 95% of people running ACOGs would be better off running something else when you look at how they actually run their rifles. They are falling for the COOL factor. Which is understandable, as they look very sexy...just not very practical.

[SID45]

thanks , very good insight. What about the ta33 with RMR. You have a 4x with a red dot on top , anyone who has has experience with that? It seems like eye relief is the major factor that would sway someone when buying this scope.

[Warhawk014]

can we have an official acog picture thread

[ADAM]

ranges 5-50 you dont need to aim with acog pointing the muzzle at the target you will have it coverd.Imho PREACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE

[vietboy1st]

check it out lol..
ok first how long is your barrel. Each acog designed for each size of the barrel and the caliber. if you have 14.5 to 16'' barrel use TA31F model , TA31F-G , TA31rco.m4cp... both are for 223cal 5.56mm round.
if you are having over 18 to 20'' barrel get TA31 , TA31rco.150cp model.
So good luck . all these model are 4x mangnifer.. You can use acog as magnifier for your current eotech also it looks pretty sick i don't have good camera to take picture of it but that's all i have..

[Sumo99]

What about the ta33 with RMR.

Personally, I think the RMR is unnecessary. But, I guess it would depend on what you plan to do with your rifle. For shooting steel plates out to 600, the TA33 works wonderfully and in the .01% chance that I would need it for CQB the 3x works just fine. Just practice with shooting both eyes open and you'll see just how easy it is to use at close ranges (not as fast as a red dot, but still fast). Also the eye relief is longer than the 1.9" advertised by Trijicon.

[45R]

My ACOG of choice is a TA-31F with Red Chevron. For 10-600 yards it works just fine.. for me. I have taken 2 carbine classes with the 4X ACOG and here are my observations.

I shoot nose to charging handle....the 4X ACOG is perfect for this type of shooting.
For LIMITED engagements (Single or two targets at CQB 5-10 yards your pretty much point shooting) 10-15 yards with multiple targets the magnification slows you down a bit. Esp if all your bad guys look like cardboard IPSC targets.

For 25 plus yards the ACOG is very accurate and just as fast for me as my T1

For 50-600 yards you can make hits all day on man size targets as long as you do your job.

Targets at 0-5 yards your point shooting.....

Now were the red dot shines and my 4X ACOG had issues is when I have to shoot from positions that did not allow me to use the eye-relief. The optic was pretty much useless. I had to point shoot or transition to pistol.

Hope this helps.

[nation]

have any of the hardcore acog users used a cheaper version with good luck?
i know theres the barska(crap) and the bushnell(only 1x) but i want something thats 3-4x,holds zero and doesnt cost 700+ used.

[hnoppenberger]

ill be honest, i don't own an acog but have the 56mm accupoint on a hunting rifle (so i'm not a hater). On a gun I have setup for 3 gun i have done a lot of back and forth about what optic to run and went with an eotech/mag combo over an acog. it seems best for close engaging, but gives you some extra if you need to go out to 300m+, and the advantage over an aimpoint is the 1moa dot for those longer ranges.

the acog is meant for shooting man sized targets on an open battlfield, but still being able to quickly engage targets closer up, and resonable at CQB. I really think most people are using them because they are too cool (and they are). I felt i was better served with a red dot and flip to side for what its being used for.

[Hk996]

I have the TA-01 and TA-31TRD both with crosshair. I chose the crosshair because I like them and I like the distance lines in them also. They are great scopes and durable too... one of my rifles took a fall with the acog from the table once and I never even thought twice about it being damaged or losing zero. Like someone mentioned, the fiberoptic can be TOO bright sometimes though.

[Outta Control]

... All I am saying is about 95% of people running ACOGs would be better off running something else when you look at how they actually run their rifles. They are falling for the COOL factor. Which is understandable, as they look very sexy...just not very practical.

+1

To think I almost drank that KoolAid.

[Warhawk014]

For long time i have been using eotechs.I have no clue how acogs work and which one to get.I love the field of view of the eotechs.It is going to be mounted on ar15 carbine.tell me which acog to get.

i think only recomendations can be made as everyone has very different tastes and not everyones eyes are made the same. shop around and when you find one you really like buy it. you wont be dissapointed at what you get. acogs are top notch stuff. and dont listen to the naysayers who say if your going to punch paper from a bench then an acog is not practical. as long as your enjoying yourself with what you got thats all that really matters.
i shoot my 1 rifle that i own from a bench at paper targets that normally dont exceed 100 yards. and i dont care what anyone else thinks about my setup or how i run my rifle. i have a blast everytime i take it out.

[santacruzstefan]

TA33G-H is great, but if I had to do it over again, I might have gone with a chevron reticle just because the center dot on the horseshoe is 2 moa, iirc. It wight be a bit more accurate with the chevron, but green is a great color.