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  • DougJ
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 1812

    Primary Arms micro dot

    I thought I would post up a quick review of this little sight since I haven't seen much about it here. I've been looking at getting an optic for my AR for a while, I'm a fan of the eotech reticle, but like the idea of the LONG battery life available with Aimpoint. I can get an XPS2 for quite a bit less than the Aimpoint once you include the mount, and I had not used the T-1 / H-1 size sight before. All these factors led me to decide to try the Primary Arms gen 2 Micro Dot to see if I like the platform, I have no need for the tacticool killflash. I figure that I can see if I like it and no matter which way I go I can put this on my 10-22 or something. Yes, it's Chinese made crappola, and I do have an issue with that.

    I ordered from the Primary Arms website on a Saturday night, the sight was in my hands on Thursday, shipped from TX to CA. As seems to be the norm, great service from Primary Arms. I included in my order the optional mount that provides a 1/3 co-witness. It came to about $114 with shipping. Link to web page.





    The was packaged well for shipment and came in a small box which included the sight with base, high mount, lens cover, allen wrenches and instructions. On first inspection the sight seems solid and the mount OK for the money. The mount looks like a quick disconnect type but the design is poor and the instructions call it an emergency release. It looks like the shape of the lever where in cams to the lock position is the culprit. In time I may take a dremel to the area that I think is the issue and see if I can make it function a little better. It does not fit the rail as well as it could, but once I had it sufficiently tight it seemed OK.





    The sight is bright and the dot has a nice round appearance, a rough guess puts it about 3 to 3.5 MOA in size. On a very bright day at about 3500' I was using positions 7 or 8 out of 11 with no problems. I had to make only a very slight adjustment to bring the dot to alignment with the front sight post while co-witnessing. Due to the location of the emitter it does block the bottom of your sight picture a bit, but since I would not normally align my irons it's not a big deal. With the initial adjustment done I flipped down the Troy rear sight and proceeded to get some rounds downrange. I immediately discovered that the "quick release" was to loose. Once I tightened the mount adequately it held zero with no issues, but I only fired about 100 rounds. There was nothing special about making adjustments, and as stated they were minor.

    In this picture the sight is set on position #5.


    With the rifle rested and looking through the sight while moving my head around, it seems that the sight is fairly free of parallax, except when you get the dot into the upper 1/3 of the sight. With the dot left, right or down it seemed to hold POA, but as you get that dot high in the tube the dot climbs up quite a bit. I didn't test carefully, but I would have to guess that the dot moves up at least 4 MOA by the time it's at the top edge of the tube.

    I can't address battery life or durability yet, but others have done so and been pleased. At this point I'm very positive about this sight, easy to use, very visible dot, feels solid, good value.
    Last edited by DougJ; 04-15-2010, 11:14 PM.
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    lumwilliam
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 751

    DougJ - you rock! Thanks for the review and good pics. I'm in the market for something similar, so this is of great value to me. Looking at this or the Vortex Strikefire. A few bucks more, and not quite as many glowing reviews, but it has a 2x magnifier that screws into it...giving it a little versatility for a similar price. Did you consider the Vortex at all before making your purchase? I hope to hear a follow up range report for how it holds zero and how the battery life is. Thanks again!

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    • #3
      nagorb
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 4355

      Thanks for the review, let us know how it holds up.

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      • #4
        DougJ
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 1812

        I did consider the Vortex Strikefire and the Sparc. These also have good reviews and customer support. They are also made in China so in that area they are a push. What decided it for me was the switch knob on this one vs the buttons on the Vortex stuff, the reviews and customer support I've seen over at AR15.com, and the price.
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        • #5
          RookieShooter
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 1952

          Thanks for the review!! I have a Gen 1 on order and looking forward to check it out.
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          • #6
            Koolpsych
            Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 209

            Great review! Glad someone finally published one to give people interested in primary arms clones something to look at.

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            • #7
              pepsi2451
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 1629

              I agree with everything you said. I would like to add they have great customer support. I broke my bikini covers and they don't sell replacements but they sent a new one right away for free, I didn't even pay shipping. I will be ordering from them again the next time I need a low cost sight.

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              • #8
                shark92651
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Oct 2006
                • 5431

                Does anybody know if this sight still has the problem where the holes for the mount were drilled completely into the body, fouling the nitrogen purge? I read somewhere (maybe arfcom) about people replacing the base with a LaRue mount but that loses the purge because of the holes. I thought they were going to get a new generation that did not have this problem, but this still says Gen 2 so not sure...
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                • #9
                  DougJ
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 1812

                  Marshall had the ones that were drilled to deep on sale at a steep discount, and they are all gone. The new ones are all fine. As I understand it once he discovered that there was an issue he contacted those that had already purchased and offered a refund, discount or to replace the sight. I liked the fact that he fully disclosed what happened and made it right.

                  Gen one has a fixed base,
                  Gen two has a removable base,
                  Gen three has a removable base and is longer because the front is threaded for a killflash.
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                  • #10
                    Lucky7
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 681

                    Thanks for all the good info DougJ! I just got mine today and was wondering if anyone had tried it on 12 gauge yet?

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                    • #11
                      !@#$
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 2461

                      Originally posted by shark92651
                      Does anybody know if this sight still has the problem where the holes for the mount were drilled completely into the body, fouling the nitrogen purge? I read somewhere (maybe arfcom) about people replacing the base with a LaRue mount but that loses the purge because of the holes. I thought they were going to get a new generation that did not have this problem, but this still says Gen 2 so not sure...
                      only sights sold as blems had that prolem. also a mount made for an aimpoint micro will not co-witness with a PA micro.the emiter is on the bottom so it blocks the irons. the soon to be sold gen4 will have the emiter at the same spot as the aimpoint and offer lower 1/3 co-witness with aimpoint mounts..
                      they sold out of the blems with the holes drilled through. any new sight from PA will be 100%. PA will credit the cost of the blems on a new sight if you have any problem for 1 year.


                      FWIW gen1 micros will co-witness on an ak ultimak rail also on a 10-22 with tech-sights.

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                      • #12
                        Joe
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 5730

                        Awesome initial review. Please update us when you get a chance to use it.

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                        • #13
                          DougJ
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 1812

                          Originally posted by DougJ
                          Once I tightened the mount adequately it held zero with no issues, but I only fired about 100 rounds.
                          I hope to get out with it again as soon as my schedule permits. I had a new shotgun to break in and I ran a couple of hundred rounds through one of my 45's the same day I set up this sight, so I had to spread the love.
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                          • #14
                            Low-Pressure
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 1758

                            I shot my 2nd one this weekend. 250 rounds after still zeroed. Great customer service, this one is my replacement.... the 1st one I got was defective, didn't have enough adjustment. Sent them an e-mail and was told to send it back. I got my replacement 3 working days later, talking about fast shipping. The company is ran, no BS attitude..... great guys and great products.
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                            • #15
                              hoozaru
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 1712

                              anyone tried these clones on a .308 rifle?

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