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**97F1504RAD** · 10-29-2009, 6:16 PM

Check with Scott @ http://libertyoptics.com/ he is having a special on the Accupoints currently. And he will take the time to answer your questions if you email him or call him.

**Barney Gumble** · 10-29-2009, 6:32 PM

I don't see how you can't get your info from the threads that are more AR-centric, it's the same process ie. the mission drives the gear: think about what your needs are and go from there. For example if you want a BDC reticle that's going to eliminate a bunch of your candidates right off the top.

I don't see a lot of people putting 1-4x scopes on M1As mainly because so few people consider it a CQB-type rifle and at short ranges most prefer the irons. Consider looking at scopes in the 2-8x or 3-9x range.

**esskay** · 10-29-2009, 6:41 PM

Also for M14 applications, don't forget to consider issues with respect to mounting the optics -- e.g. eye relief. Accupoints for instance tend to have pretty long eye relief, make sure you can mount the optic appropriately on the rifle.

**Trapper** · 10-29-2009, 6:59 PM

If you use the factory rail on your Scout Squad you will need to go with a pistol scope/scout scope or a red dot.

**Sumo99** · 10-29-2009, 11:36 PM

Let me give a little more info. I tried the scout mount with a red dot and decided that was not for me. So this scope will go above the receiver. Reason I was considering a 1x4 vs. a more powerful scope is because I'm looking for something to fill a gap. I have a bolt action w/ a 10x and a full size M1a that I will eventually put the 3x9 Leupold that is currently on the scout. I'm also putting together a AR that will get my tripower.

Barney - Any 2x8 suggestions?

esskay-thanks, that was one of my concerns about the accupoint since I know you need a special mount to mount ACOGs, I didn't know if the same applied to the accupoints.

So has anyone used the Burris XTR for the 7.62

**Barney Gumble** · 10-30-2009, 12:11 AM

I don't have any suggestions but I'm working through this same issue of picking a scope for my Scout. I've also tried (and not liked) an Aimpoint on the Scout rail, and I don't want a Scout scope out there either due to the weight. So I'm going to go with a receiver mount like you but I haven't started seriously looking at scopes yet. I do know that it won't be a 1-4x.

**esskay** · 10-30-2009, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by Barney Gumble

I've also tried (and not liked) an Aimpoint on the Scout rail, and I don't want a Scout scope out there either due to the weight.

If it was just the weight that you didn't like, H-1/T-1 might work well since it's so small & light.

**esskay** · 10-30-2009, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by Sumo99

esskay-thanks, that was one of my concerns about the accupoint since I know you need a special mount to mount ACOGs, I didn't know if the same applied to the accupoints.

I believe some of the problematic issues with an ACOG on the M14 is that optic is pretty high which doesn't go too well with the M14, and the eye relief tends to be really short (depending on which model) which also doesn't go too well with the M14.

I haven't tried mounting an Accupoint on an M14, so not sure how to make it work. You might want to check out the M14 forums, I'm sure a bunch of folks have tried it before.

**ciscosixgun** · 10-30-2009, 12:12 PM

Accupoint with the red reticle you won't be sorry.

**cal3gunner** · 10-30-2009, 9:55 PM

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**AfisBoy** · 10-30-2009, 11:30 PM

Yeah, I ditched the Millet DMS, for the Trijicon TR24 too. For the money, the Millet aint bad, but the TR24 is awesome

**bmuoio** · 11-01-2009, 2:22 PM

SADLAK ONLY WAY 2 GO!

Originally posted by Sumo99

Let me give a little more info. I tried the scout mount with a red dot and decided that was not for me. So this scope will go above the receiver. Reason I was considering a 1x4 vs. a more powerful scope is because I'm looking for something to fill a gap. I have a bolt action w/ a 10x and a full size M1a that I will eventually put the 3x9 Leupold that is currently on the scout. I'm also putting together a AR that will get my tripower.

Barney - Any 2x8 suggestions?

esskay-thanks, that was one of my concerns about the accupoint since I know you need a special mount to mount ACOGs, I didn't know if the same applied to the accupoints.

400 Error: Bad Request

http://www.sadlak.com/si_improvements_to_bpt.html

I have also a M1a 18' and 22' and understand why the 4X optic I am in the same boat. I like Accupoint and see them on Military weapons. Why not 4 is better than none.
But have many experts swear the only way to go on a M1 is a Sadlak! End of story.

So has anyone used the Burris XTR for the 7.62

I have also a M1a 18' and 22' and understand why the 4X optic I am in the same boat. I like Accupoint and see them on Military weapons. Why not 4 is better than none.
But have many experts swear the only way to go on a M1 is a Sadlak! End of story.

**Sumo99** · 11-03-2009, 8:59 AM

Okay, I found out that the accupoint has a pretty good eye relief so that is not going to be an issue. I guess now I just need to decide what scope. I think I narrowed it down to the Accupoint 1x4 or Burris XTR 1.5x6. I like the Accupoint because I know it has good glass, is a bit cheaper and has a nice simple reticle. The Burris does have more magnification but the reticle seems a bit busy.

**cal3gunner** · 11-03-2009, 6:48 PM

I was playing with the Burris the other day. The reticle has a lot going on and even though it had day time illumination, it washed out against some backgrounds. The Accupoint is very simple to use and can be used to make hits at distance, just not as easily as others with BDC's out to 600

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