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  • WWDHD?
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 2684

    higher end .22 scopes

    Looking at two 4-12x40 .22 rimfire scopes: Trackt 22 Fire and the Athlon Neos. Any thoughts on overall quality and clarity of glass between the two? As far as I've read the Trackt is made in the PI and the Athlon in China- that's a big minus for me but might still consider if significantly better in some way.
    Purpose is for mostly bench target shooting out to 100 yards or more and maybe competition someday if I ever have the time. Mounting it on a Ruger 10/22 Competition rifle. I'm using a Nikon 3-9x40 Prostaff now and like it but always looking around at anything better.
    Thanks.
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  • #2
    stormvet
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    • Mar 2010
    • 12681

    Can’t comment on the first one, but I have a Athlon Talos 3-12x40. It is the next step up from the Neos, but still very affordable. I have it mounted on a Ruger Precision 22 mag, the combo gives me some pretty tight groups at 100 and with the 22 mag I am able to take it out further. I’m pretty impressed with it, nice clear glass even at 12 power. Has maintained zero since day one, the parallax and turret adjustments are tight and tactile. Rarely have seen it that good on a lower cost optic. I got the center X reticle, I prefer them on rimfire rifles.
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    • #3
      theLBC
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      • Oct 2017
      • 6860

      maybe give doug at camerlandny.com and call and tell him what your budget is and what kind of shooting. for a .22lr, you probably want a parallax that is adjustable (like the neos and talos above) to short distances, and not fixed at 50 or 100yds.
      at least he can look through them and steer you away from bad ones.
      Last edited by theLBC; 12-11-2021, 9:52 AM.

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      • #4
        Peahi2
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2018
        • 818

        Can you spend more? I think the prob with lower end scopes is that you will immediately see that you want more...and that's after you've already sunk money into your scope. If you can wait for a while to save up, I think its worth it to get some more power and higher quality glass. Get quality and power right off the bat, and you won't have to worry about upgrading again, and again, and again, eventually spending way more money than just getting something good right off the bat.

        Also, be sure to feed your gun good ammo. Good ammo and good optics = happy shooter.

        For example, I keep coming back to the Athlon Midas Tac series.
        Last edited by Peahi2; 12-11-2021, 8:48 PM.

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        • #5
          WWDHD?
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          • Jul 2010
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          I thought I was shopping higher end rimfire scopes. What else is there?
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          • #6
            M76
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            • Apr 2014
            • 5954

            Originally posted by WWDHD?
            I thought I was shopping higher end rimfire scopes. What else is there?
            a competition rimfire shooter I know swears by Sightron, he recommended the 10X50 fine crosshair scope.

            It's around 1K

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            • #7
              Paperchasin
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              • Oct 2010
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              Originally posted by WWDHD?
              I thought I was shopping higher end rimfire scopes. What else is there?
              What makes a rimfire scope different than a scope for any other rifle? Maybe just reticle?
              Feedback: https://imgur.com/a/mkdPdnQ

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              • #8
                Paperchasin
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                • Oct 2010
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                Originally posted by M76
                a competition rimfire shooter I know swears by Sightron, he recommended the 10X50 fine crosshair scope.

                It's around 1K

                https://www.opticsplanet.com/sightro...iflescope.html
                Many people out there use Vortex Razors, etc that are more expensive scopes than this.
                Last edited by Paperchasin; 12-12-2021, 6:16 AM.
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                • #9
                  ocabj
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                  • Oct 2005
                  • 7924

                  Originally posted by WWDHD?
                  I thought I was shopping higher end rimfire scopes. What else is there?
                  I ran a Kahles K525i on my Vudoo until earlier this year when I got the Zero Compromise Optic ZC527 MPCT3. I have the ZC527 MPCT3X on the way to put on my Vudoo an will be rotating the ZC527 MPCT3 to another Vudoo I plan on ordering (and until then will sit on my CZ 455).

                  The ATACR 7-35 is popular for 22LR as well since it parallax adjusts down to 10 yards (or meters?).

                  If you're looking at benchrest, then maybe the Nightforce 15-55x52mm.
                  Last edited by ocabj; 12-12-2021, 8:12 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Gun Kraft
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 804

                    Originally posted by Paperchasin
                    What makes a rimfire scope different than a scope for any other rifle? Maybe just reticle?
                    There are different schools of thought regarding this.

                    One is that since rimfires don't generate as much recoil some manufacturers sell "rimfire scopes" that can't stand up to higher recoil forces. So they're less durable.

                    Another is that there isn't any difference (except for BDC which you don't want) so pick a scope that fits your budget, purpose and range regardless of caliber.

                    While the Zero Compromise is a fine scope, that seems overkill if the max distance is 100 yards. Totally reasonable if you're talking ELR (400 yds+ with .22LR) but that's hard to do in the SF bay area. There's nothing inherently wrong with overkill in situations like this (and I've been accused of that myself) but I think you should know when you're getting into those situations.
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                    • #11
                      Sir Toast
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                      • Dec 2012
                      • 3140

                      I put an athlon Midas on my Bergara B14R and I couldn't be happier.



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                      • #12
                        WWDHD?
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 2684

                        This is all very interesting as some of these scope makers were not coming up in my searches (Kahles, Sightron,...) - I've just never heard of them.
                        About the most expensive .22 specific scopes I've found on my own are Leupolds for around the $300 + or - range. I'm not opposed to this brand but they seem to be more focused on hunting and that's not what I'm interested in at all.
                        Ok how about this: What would be the best .22 scope for target shooting out to 100 yds max and maybe some competition use for under $450? Possible?
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                        • #13
                          WWDHD?
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                          • Jul 2010
                          • 2684

                          Originally posted by Sir Toast

                          That is a bad ***** set-up you have there
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                          • #14
                            Sir Toast
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                            • Dec 2012
                            • 3140

                            Originally posted by WWDHD?
                            That is a bad ***** set-up you have there
                            Thanks man. It truly is bad - azz. Not by me. I just spent the $$$$. It is a great shooter.

                            Oh, by the way, Triggertech trigger!

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                            • #15
                              Peahi2
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2018
                              • 818

                              Originally posted by WWDHD?
                              This is all very interesting as some of these scope makers were not coming up in my searches (Kahles, Sightron,...) - I've just never heard of them.
                              About the most expensive .22 specific scopes I've found on my own are Leupolds for around the $300 + or - range. I'm not opposed to this brand but they seem to be more focused on hunting and that's not what I'm interested in at all.
                              Ok how about this: What would be the best .22 scope for target shooting out to 100 yds max and maybe some competition use for under $450? Possible?
                              Ocabj was right on...

                              When you said you were looking for higher end scopes, be aware, that when we are talking optics, the sky is the limit for cost. Good glass, reticle, and features will cost you. The parallax adjustment is kind of important if you will sometimes be shooting your 22 close in (which is probably most of the time for you).

                              Also, if you get serious about marksmanship and attend an appleseed clinic, you will need a scope that has parallax adjustable down to 25 yards or less. Most rifle scopes cannot do this. So don't just buy any old scope. If you do a search on "NRL base class scopes", you will see some lower end scopes that will fit your bill. Otherwise, on the top end, you can spend some serious dough on scopes and rings, and rail.


                              If you are serious about learning about 22 optics, you should go over to snipers hide and rimfire central and immerse yourself in all the materials and topics of discussion.

                              By next week, you'll probably be ditching your Ruger "competition" 10/22 for a Kidd rifle, and then you'll be eyeing Tikkas and CZs...and then a Vudoo jk. Its a slippery slope man.
                              Last edited by Peahi2; 12-14-2021, 6:04 PM.

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