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  • #16
    rodralig
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2016
    • 4262

    Originally posted by coolarthur1
    Holosun is low quality Chinese budget junk
    Funny thing though is that the optics that I had fail on me where the Trijicon SRO where zero shifted after 2K rounds and the DeltaPoint Micro which broke in less than 10-rounds.

    My Vortex and Holosuns are still running strong... Swampfox Liberty - will still have to see...

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    WEGC - Shooting at 10-yards VS 20-yards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mdbNZ4j9U

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    • #17
      coolarthur1
      Banned
      • Nov 2020
      • 63

      Originally posted by rodralig
      Funny thing though is that the optics that I had fail on me where the Trijicon SRO where zero shifted after 2K rounds and the DeltaPoint Micro which broke in less than 10-rounds.

      My Vortex and Holosuns are still running strong... Swampfox Liberty - will still have to see...

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      Nothing is perfect, doesn't mean I'm going with something inferior.

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      • #18
        crufflers
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2011
        • 12723

        You would think these optics would be fairly stout since there are not really any internal parts that move around... fairly solid state. The critical thing is that the pistol sights ride on a reciprocating slide in typical installations. Apparently this will shake any sub par pcb, solder, loose circuits to the point of failure. Also, there is the issue of sights being water-tight. Trijicon is definitely not immune to any of that. Aimpoint does seem to be though. I'm sure the manufacturers learn from each revision and make repairs and redesigns, no doubt. There has to be a balance between price and QA/QC - we talk about it all the time here with guns and optics.

        This is also why I believe higher quality imports like Holosun have come up with much better "Military Grade" or "Platinum" lines nowadays to make up production costs. At some point the cost of the decent quality CHINA stuff is close enough to a really good NON-CHINESE optic that I'd buy something SWEDISH, JAPANESE, OR AMERICAN.

        Small samplings are just that, but they do leave a bad impression for the person that had to send that brand's fragile or defective product in for replacement or repair.

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        • #19
          NorCalBusa
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 1497

          Originally posted by crufflers
          You would think these optics would be fairly stout since there are not really any internal parts that move around... fairly solid state. The critical thing is that the pistol sights ride on a reciprocating slide in typical installations. Apparently this will shake any sub par pcb, solder, loose circuits to the point of failure. Also, there is the issue of sights being water-tight. Trijicon is definitely not immune to any of that. Aimpoint does seem to be though. I'm sure the manufacturers learn from each revision and make repairs and redesigns, no doubt. There has to be a balance between price and QA/QC - we talk about it all the time here with guns and optics.

          This is also why I believe higher quality imports like Holosun have come up with much better "Military Grade" or "Platinum" lines nowadays to make up production costs. At some point the cost of the decent quality CHINA stuff is close enough to a really good NON-CHINESE optic that I'd buy something SWEDISH, JAPANESE, OR AMERICAN.

          Small samplings are just that, but they do leave a bad impression for the person that had to send that brand's fragile or defective product in for replacement or repair.
          For sure. And that's where reviewers like Mike Foster (GunsnGear), who unintentionally beat the crap out of optics (and flashlights) to point out such failures- raising the game of the manufacturers. We all win- manufacturers and users.
          If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there

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          • #20
            rodralig
            CGN Contributor
            • Apr 2016
            • 4262

            Originally posted by coolarthur1
            Nothing is perfect, doesn't mean I'm going with something inferior.
            True that nothing is perfect. But your statement doesn't hold little as you are unable to quantify your statement - something "inferior."


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            • #21
              coolarthur1
              Banned
              • Nov 2020
              • 63

              Originally posted by rodralig
              True that nothing is perfect. But your statement doesn't hold little as you are unable to quantify your statement - something "inferior."


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              Made in China vs American made and used by the military in a literal war zone

              One is budget junk, the other isnt

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              • #22
                Peahi2
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2018
                • 818

                I just ordered a 508t the other day. Amazon was blocking it. Their loss I immediately went to Eurooptic. Ironically I was trying to buy it on Amazon with Eurooptic as the vendor. Oh well. At least Eurooptic got the business straight up

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                • #23
                  NorCalBusa
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 1497

                  Originally posted by Peahi2
                  I just ordered a 508t the other day. Amazon was blocking it. Their loss I immediately went to Eurooptic. Ironically I was trying to buy it on Amazon with Eurooptic as the vendor. Oh well. At least Eurooptic got the business straight up
                  Plenty of other vendors have them and are happy to ship- some w/free shipping and no tax.
                  If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there

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                  • #24
                    crufflers
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 12723

                    I wonder if any Youtube reviewers pay for their own test and evaluation product and order blind (so the company has no idea they are sending product to a reviewer). If QC is where they save money, it is pretty simple for them to QC the crap out of all test and eval units. You really think they don't do that?

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                    • #25
                      el_clingon
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2015
                      • 1704

                      Originally posted by NorCalBusa
                      Holoson just replied to my note. I pointed out their product promotes more accurate target acquisition, but I bet they are way ahead of me;
                      WTF! God I hate Amazon.
                      Formally known as el Chingon...

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                      • #26
                        sfvshooter
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 1200

                        Buy from another vendor...problem solved.
                        Too many rifles, not enough time...

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                        • #27
                          bclee87
                          Member
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 264

                          Amazon shipped me a Trijicon RMR but won't allow me to purchase Trijicon night sights.

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                          • #28
                            Dr. Peter Venkman
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 4899

                            Originally posted by coolarthur1
                            Made in China vs American made and used by the military in a literal war zone

                            One is budget junk, the other isnt
                            Would you rather have duty-grade Chinese or American-made ****? Emotional attachments to equipment is foolish.
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                            • #29
                              crufflers
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 12723

                              Originally posted by Dr. Peter Venkman
                              Would you rather have duty-grade Chinese or American-made ****? Emotional attachments to equipment is foolish.

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                              • #30
                                deadcoyote
                                Veteran Member
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 4002

                                Originally posted by rodralig
                                Funny thing though is that the optics that I had fail on me where the Trijicon SRO where zero shifted after 2K rounds and the DeltaPoint Micro which broke in less than 10-rounds.

                                My Vortex and Holosuns are still running strong... Swampfox Liberty - will still have to see...

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