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Looking for a night vision option in the $2K price range, either gen 3 or thermal that can be used on a variety of rifles and scopes (as opposed to a designated scope) for ADC work outside CA. Any recommendations?
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Get on the Cool Guy Gear fb group, gen 3 14's pop up all the time for around $2k if you want a headmounted option. If you want a clip on for a rifle, expect to pay $5,000+. Youll need to decide if you want NVG or thermal though. They are completely different tools.Last edited by CouchOperator; 01-27-2018, 4:26 PM. -
What's better for 360* scanning?Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
The U.S. city with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, Washington, D.C., has the highest murder rate at 24 per 100,000.
The state with the most unrestrictive gun regulations, Vermont, has the lowest murder rate at 0.48 per 100,000.Comment
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Head mounted PVS14 if on a budget, if not, go mod3 or sentinels. Clipons are pretty undesireable for scouting as you need to lift up your rifle to see/identify which has the potential of violating firearms safety rules (you need to point your weapon at what you want to identify)
I use mod3 on an MtekLast edited by CouchOperator; 01-28-2018, 3:29 AM.Comment
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With a $2k budget, a -14 is probably your best bet.Comment
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Having used both night vision and thermal, I'd go thermal every time. Owning both is ideal, but given a choice between the 2, thermal wins IMHO.
If you wait for a sale, you can get the Armasight Predator 336 for around $2K. It's too bad that you didn't ask last year. When they came out with the Predator 336 it sold for $1,999. Now it's gone up to $2,800 to $3,000 everywhere. For awhile, you could get Cabela's version of it for $1,499. But Cabelas discontinued their version of it quickly for some reason.
If you're considering night vision, consider Digital. It's far cheaper and pretty darn good. You can use it in daylight and there's no bloom problems at night. You'll never destroy it like NV with an intensifier. There's good units out there in the $600 to $1,000 range."Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry GoldwaterComment
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I disagree that thermal is superior. Thermal is only really good for detection; NV is a more flexible tool. Regarding light damaging the tube, thats not an issue with current gen 3 autogated tubes.Comment
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Like I said, owning both is ideal.
You scan with the thermal, and walk and shoot with the NV.
But if you can only choose one, the thermal wins because you can walk and shoot with it just fine. But spotting tangos with just NV is much harder than with thermal. Bloom also causes problems with NV, not with thermal. And again, thermal is day or night.Last edited by k1dude; 01-29-2018, 12:42 PM."Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry GoldwaterComment
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Last edited by k1dude; 01-29-2018, 4:41 PM."Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry GoldwaterComment
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For hunting thermal wins without a doubt.Comment
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Can you use night vision to see someone in the bushes with camouflage on and not moving? How about the ability to tell that a vehicle was was recently driven? Ability to locate a weapon in the grass that was just fired?
Both have pros and cons.Comment
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Why would the OP be driving at night with NV? He isn't in the 'stan driving a Humvee on patrol is he? What does the acronym ADC mean?
I assumed he was using it on foot for hunting."Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry GoldwaterComment
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