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  • #61
    crufflers
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jul 2011
    • 12723

    Originally posted by kenl
    Edit: IIRC the Burris was discontinued and impossible to find about a year ago, when I was looking for a 1x prism sight.
    You are correct, even on SWFA, the detail says it is discontinued. They only have TWO left. Did not notice it was discontinued before.

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    • #62
      k1dude
      I need a LIFE!!
      • May 2009
      • 15216

      Originally posted by Ej6fade
      Not everything is about the newest fad or newest technology, and OP is specifically asking about red dots, scopes (1-4,1-6,1-8) reticle, and glass quality are irrelevant. Hell, I know a lot of dudes that are still running Aimpoint Comp M2's, some of those optics are at least 10-15 years old and still going strong. I have a few Comp M2's and ML2's, and even though they are older, I'm not rushing to replace them all with Pro's or T2's. Everything breaks, and Murphy's law applies, but I still believe in the buy once cry once approach.
      My non-red dot example was for illustration. I shouldn't even have to explain that.

      And who's to say a less expensive red dot isn't still going to be working 10-15 years later? I have a cheap Tasco red dot that's still chugging along after 30 years of hunting and being smashed on rocks and used in the rain. I have a cheap Bushnell TRS-25 that has over 10 years of service on my competition AR and too many to count classes. It's been through mud, rain, wind, dust, snow, rocks, trees, and who knows what else. It's been dropped too many times to count. Just because it's less expensive doesn't mean it isn't going to last.

      And why do you consider stuff made by Burris, Vortex, and Bushnell to be unworthy? All are proven performers made by good companies. Yes, I have Aimpoint T-1's, EoTech's, and ACOG's also, but I have no problem whatsover with less expensive optics with proven performance. I have yet to have one of the less expensive optics fail to perform over the years. I've actually been shocked to find out how well they've performed.
      "Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill

      "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry Goldwater

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      • #63
        crufflers
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2011
        • 12723

        Originally posted by k1dude
        My non-red dot example was for illustration. I shouldn't even have to explain that.

        And who's to say a less expensive red dot isn't still going to be working 10-15 years later? I have a cheap Tasco red dot that's still chugging along after 30 years of hunting and being smashed on rocks and used in the rain.
        That's true. I have 50mm BSA and a 30mm Tasco that still work. Controls and adjustments are still mushy, dots still are not bright enough, but they do still work last I checked. They are in a box somewhere. I'd probably have used the Tasco on some BB gun but the rubberized coating has turned to sticky sludge.

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        • #64
          9mmContagion
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 3242

          Originally posted by k1dude
          My non-red dot example was for illustration. I shouldn't even have to explain that.

          And who's to say a less expensive red dot isn't still going to be working 10-15 years later? I have a cheap Tasco red dot that's still chugging along after 30 years of hunting and being smashed on rocks and used in the rain. I have a cheap Bushnell TRS-25 that has over 10 years of service on my competition AR and too many to count classes. It's been through mud, rain, wind, dust, snow, rocks, trees, and who knows what else. It's been dropped too many times to count. Just because it's less expensive doesn't mean it isn't going to last.

          And why do you consider stuff made by Burris, Vortex, and Bushnell to be unworthy? All are proven performers made by good companies. Yes, I have Aimpoint T-1's, EoTech's, and ACOG's also, but I have no problem whatsover with less expensive optics with proven performance. I have yet to have one of the less expensive optics fail to perform over the years. I've actually been shocked to find out how well they've performed.
          Because those less expensive brand names are not tacicool enough for keyboard operators; and military and law enforcement don't use the less expensive options.

          I'd rather buy a Vortex or PA red dot for a range gun and buy 1k rounds of range ammo to actually shoot
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          • #65
            CouchOperator
            Veteran Member
            • May 2016
            • 4353

            Originally posted by Ldarshay
            Because those less expensive brand names are not tacicool enough for keyboard operators; and military and law enforcement don't use the less expensive options.

            I'd rather buy a Vortex or PA red dot for a range gun and buy 1k rounds of range ammo to actually shoot
            Or we arent living on broke***** mountain and prefer to spend our money on proven gear?

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            • #66
              crufflers
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2011
              • 12723

              Originally posted by CouchOperator
              Or we arent living on broke***** mountain and prefer to spend our money on proven gear?
              Oh yeah... that's the other little detail about the Vortex SPARC AR besides the cheap mount. It is not proven.

              The old BSA I had did prove to go off randomly if the battery was in a bad mood or the wind was blowing.

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              • #67
                peacedivision
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 1717



                They can both live together in peace

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                • #68
                  Lonestargrizzly not a Cabinetguy
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2015
                  • 6504

                  I think I need an Aimpoint PRO in my life.

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                  • #69
                    Gun Nerd
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 965

                    Originally posted by peacedivision


                    They can both live together in peace
                    it's like a Bentley and 300c next to each other.
                    Girls like my guns more than me

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                    • #70
                      Gun Nerd
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 965

                      Did somebody say aimpoint?
                      Girls like my guns more than me

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                      • #71
                        Ej6fade
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 786

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                        Last edited by Ej6fade; 02-28-2019, 12:21 PM.

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                        • #72
                          9mmContagion
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 3242

                          Originally posted by Ej6fade
                          Yep, you got me, I've spent thousands of dollars on top quality stuff to impress everyone on the internet while it collects spiderwebs in the closet
                          Not intended for any one in particular member in here... but let's be honest. I'd be willing to bet that 75% of this forum collects items as such that collect more spider webs than ammo down range...

                          Hell, half my guns that cost a pretty penny don't get enough use, and don't warrant the money I've thrown at them
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                          • #73
                            CouchOperator
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 2016
                            • 4353

                            Mine collect alot of dust and everything else



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                            • #74
                              naeco81
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 1811

                              Damn your couch must be filthy
                              Originally posted by Mitch
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                              • #75
                                Lonestargrizzly not a Cabinetguy
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Dec 2015
                                • 6504

                                Looks like you got a hair on your takedown pin.

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