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  • Bunnykit
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2017
    • 6

    Good NV scope?

    Hello everyone, I am somewhat of a newbee so please be patient with me.

    I have a remington 597, .22LR, and I am looking for a good night vision set that would work on this gun and hopefully that could work on one or more of these;
    - .243 winchester
    - 6x65, haven't picked a model yet there though
    - and possibly some kind of air rifle (to hunt rats and vermin with, so higher power type for sure)

    I want it to be able to do recordings also. No bottom price range, I can afford the expensive stuff if I can use it on the .243 and air-rifle later.

    I was looking at the Sightmark Photon XT 6.5x50L Digital Night Vision Scope - Laser IR and it seems nice, but I don't know if I can use it on my .22LR and air rifles? I honestly don't know where/how to find the info on what scopes goes on what gun, I am that green on this.

    I was also thinking about adding the UNV 20-IR Long Range LED Infrared Illuminator as well as MDVR Night Vision Mini DVR for Thermal and Digital Devices, but are those any good? I saw some youtube videos where this set was used and I liked what I saw, but I have no chance to try them myself before buying them.

    Also, this might sound like a stupid question, but is it hard to transfer a scope from gun to gun? The .22LR I have had a scope on it when I got it, and I've never changed it.

    Thank you for taking the time to read this
  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30242

    Originally posted by Bunnykit
    I was looking at the Sightmark Photon XT 6.5x50L Digital Night Vision Scope - Laser IR and it seems nice, but I don't know if I can use it on my .22LR and air rifles? I honestly don't know where/how to find the info on what scopes goes on what gun, I am that green on this.
    Because that night vision device is an active IR scope with magnification; it is illegal to import, transfer, and possess in CA. [PC 468]
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    • #3
      Quiet
      retired Goon
      • Mar 2007
      • 30242

      In order to be CA legal, the firearm mounted night vision device needs to be one of the following:
      A. Has no magnification and has an IR illuminator (light/laser).
      B. Has no magnification and has no IR illuminator (light/laser).
      C. Has magnification and has no IR illuminator (light/laser).
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      • #4
        Bunnykit
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2017
        • 6

        Originally posted by Quiet
        Because that night vision device is an active IR scope with magnification; it is illegal to import, transfer, and possess in CA. [PC 468]
        Oh I see. Will it fit on the gun though? Like, how do I know what scope fits on top of my gun? (I am super new at this and don't know anyone with guns)

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        • #5
          CouchOperator
          Veteran Member
          • May 2016
          • 4353

          In all honesty, its better, legal, and safer to run a headmounted monocular, and an IR pointer on the rifle. If its dark enough for NV, you dont want to have to point the rifle at everything you want to look at. Also, im not saying you plan on it, but i believe there are legality issues taking game with NV. I dont hunt, so im not well versed on those laws. What area are you in?

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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30242

            Originally posted by CouchOperator
            Also, im not saying you plan on it, but i believe there are legality issues taking game with NV. I dont hunt, so im not well versed on those laws.
            Under CA laws/regulations...

            It is illegal to use any type of night vision device to hunt or assist with hunting. [FGC 2005(c)]
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            • #7
              CouchOperator
              Veteran Member
              • May 2016
              • 4353

              Originally posted by Quiet
              Under CA laws/regulations...

              It is illegal to use any type of night vision device to hunt or assist with hunting. [FGC 2005(c)]
              Thats what i figured but i wasnt sure; didnt want to make a concrete statement. Thanks.

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              • #8
                Bunnykit
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2017
                • 6

                Originally posted by CouchOperator
                In all honesty, its better, legal, and safer to run a headmounted monocular, and an IR pointer on the rifle. If its dark enough for NV, you dont want to have to point the rifle at everything you want to look at. Also, im not saying you plan on it, but i believe there are legality issues taking game with NV. I dont hunt, so im not well versed on those laws. What area are you in?
                But how do I know what types of scopes fit on top of my gun? o.o Like, how do I know, when looking at different scopes, what I can use on any particular gun?

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                • #9
                  Bunnykit
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 6

                  Originally posted by CouchOperator
                  In all honesty, its better, legal, and safer to run a headmounted monocular, and an IR pointer on the rifle. If its dark enough for NV, you dont want to have to point the rifle at everything you want to look at. Also, im not saying you plan on it, but i believe there are legality issues taking game with NV. I dont hunt, so im not well versed on those laws. What area are you in?
                  One of the things I wanted to use the nightvision for is foxes that attack my own and friends livestock, and rats in the stables (with the air gun), not deer or any large game.

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                  • #10
                    CouchOperator
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2016
                    • 4353

                    Regarding anything involving making alive things dead i think id wait for Quiet. Im not gonna give advice on topics i dont know fully.

                    For shooting paper and steel with non-rifle mounted nv, yes i have experience and can help you in that regard, though my third link in my signature will help you initially
                    Last edited by CouchOperator; 04-08-2017, 12:12 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Quiet
                      retired Goon
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 30242

                      Originally posted by Bunnykit
                      But how do I know what types of scopes fit on top of my gun? o.o Like, how do I know, when looking at different scopes, what I can use on any particular gun?
                      That is dependent upon what type of mounting base is installed on your firearm.
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                      • #12
                        ShadowX
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 622

                        The X27 is the best high-definition night vision system ever developed. The quality is amazing. I doubt its available for sale to the public.

                        X27 Osprey Reconnaissance Day/Night high Fidelity true real time low light/low lux color night vision Imaging Security / Multi Purpose camera system The X27 utilizes newly advanced BSTFA (Broad Spectrum Thin Film Array) Technology. In…




                        Last edited by ShadowX; 04-08-2017, 12:29 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Bunnykit
                          Junior Member
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 6

                          Originally posted by Quiet
                          That is dependent upon what type of mounting base is installed on your firearm.
                          I'm going to make a newbee move again but...how do I know what I have? Is there a number or model name on it that I can look for? This is my first gun so I didn't think too much about these things when I got it, I don't really know much about guns >____<

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                          • #14
                            Bunnykit
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 6

                            Originally posted by ShadowX
                            The X27 is the best high-definition night vision system ever developed. The quality is amazing. I doubt its available for sale to the public.



                            OMG O____O That is AMAZING. Imagine if there were scopes with that! Those googles must be pretty big and heavy though. Wow, I wonder if this is how it's like to be a cougar or something. That is so cool, I thought it was daytime until I saw the stars.

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                            • #15
                              CouchOperator
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 2016
                              • 4353

                              Where are you located

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