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  • DSB
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1005

    Recommend Some Scope Rings

    I am going to be mounting a Leupold Vari X iii 6.5-20x40 scope on my Remington 700 in .308. This Leupold scope has a 1 inch tube. The rifle sits in a HS Precision stock that has been bedded. I will be using the rifle primarily for target shooting out to 600 yards.

    I am looking at either a traditional 2 piece set up on a base, or a 1 piece mount.

    For the 2 piece mount, I have been looking at the TPS rings and base.


    For the 1 piece mount, I was looking at the DNZ Game Reaper.
    Buy precision machined scope mounts for Remington rifles. Browse for the best scope mounts for Remington 700, 783, Model 7, 7400, 7600, 7615,750, 770,710,715, 742, 760, 597, Shotguns & Remington Genesis.


    What are your opinions on these two products?

    Should I be considering something else?

    I don't compete against anyone (other than my own ego), so I'm not looking for the best rings on the market. I am looking for a good value, but excellent quality, as well. I believe in "buy once, cry once," but I'm also not Rockefeller.
    Last edited by DSB; 05-09-2016, 3:09 PM.
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    DSB
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1005

    I like the idea of the 1 piece mount for the lack of variables, but I don't see a lot of reviews or opinions on them.

    It would appear that there is no need to lap the 1 piece mount. Is this correct?

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    • #3
      Thanatos2203
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1200

      Two rings on a base will give you more versatility for adjusting eye relief, etc on your scope. One piece bases are nicer for hunting rifles where you don't plan on making a lot of adjustments and want the lightest weight possible. For your application I would suggest going with the former.

      TPS makes solid rings, however the steel ones I had scratched the up the finish pretty good on my aluminum tubed Vortex scope. If you go that route I would suggest looking at the aluminum ones. There is also some science behind having the scope and rings the same material so they swell and contract at the same rate depending on the ambient temperature. I am no such expert so don't quote me on that. TPS also has a system where you tighten down one side first and then the other so the upper half of the rings need to be oriented correctly. This is to avoid canting your reticle during tightening. I followed the instructions to the T and did not get the desired result.

      My other suggestion would be to look at Seekins Precision rings. They are aluminum with a lot more surface area to mate to the scope. I have them on my current long distance rifle and will be hard pressed to ever seek out another brand. No lapping done, and I am quite pleased with the results.
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      • #4
        DSB
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 1005

        Originally posted by Thanatos2203
        Two rings on a base will give you more versatility for adjusting eye relief, etc on your scope. One piece bases are nicer for hunting rifles where you don't plan on making a lot of adjustments and want the lightest weight possible. For your application I would suggest going with the former.

        TPS makes solid rings, however the steel ones I had scratched the up the finish pretty good on my aluminum tubed Vortex scope. If you go that route I would suggest looking at the aluminum ones. There is also some science behind having the scope and rings the same material so they swell and contract at the same rate depending on the ambient temperature. I am no such expert so don't quote me on that. TPS also has a system where you tighten down one side first and then the other so the upper half of the rings need to be oriented correctly. This is to avoid canting your reticle during tightening. I followed the instructions to the T and did not get the desired result.

        My other suggestion would be to look at Seekins Precision rings. They are aluminum with a lot more surface area to mate to the scope. I have them on my current long distance rifle and will be hard pressed to ever seek out another brand. No lapping done, and I am quite pleased with the results.
        Thanks for that information. Very helpful.

        Unfortunately, I think Seekins does not manufacture a 1" ring. All of their rings appear to be designed for metric scope tubes.

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        • #5
          RobG
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 4887

          I have used TPS rings a few times, great rings especially for the price. I torque them as any other ring, criss-cross until I reach the correct spec. Never a problem with tube damage or slippage.

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          • #6
            Thanatos2203
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 1200

            Originally posted by DSB
            Unfortunately, I think Seekins does not manufacture a 1" ring. All of their rings appear to be designed for metric scope tubes.


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            • #7
              DSB
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 1005

              Wow, I don't know how I missed that. Thanks.
              Last edited by DSB; 05-06-2016, 11:08 AM.

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              • #8
                Thanatos2203
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 1200

                Originally posted by DSB
                Wow, I don't know how I missed that. Thanks.
                Haha, no worries. Doesn't give a ton of selection as far as mounting heights are concerned though.
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                • #9
                  Thanatos2203
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1200

                  Originally posted by DSB
                  It turns out that the internet has this feature called, "scrolling down the page." Who knew.

                  I'll probably be looking at a 0 MOA rail, since the range I shoot at only goes to 600 yards. I may consider an EGW 10 MOA rail as a compromise between 0 and 20, though.
                  Haha, crazy right?

                  IMHO, once you get to 600, you are going to want to know what 700 is like, 800, etc. Your current situation may dictate 600 but the future may hold new opportunities. Never hurts to have that extra room to adjust, so I would advocate going with the 20MOA by default.

                  EGW also makes good stuff for the money, I run one of them too and have never found a reason to upgrade.
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                  • #10
                    DSB
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1005

                    Originally posted by Thanatos2203
                    IMHO, once you get to 600, you are going to want to know what 700 is like, 800, etc. Your current situation may dictate 600 but the future may hold new opportunities. Never hurts to have that extra room to adjust, so I would advocate going with the 20MOA by default.
                    Good point.

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                    • #11
                      RobG
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 4887

                      Originally posted by Thanatos2203

                      IMHO, once you get to 600, you are going to want to know what 700 is like, 800, etc. Your current situation may dictate 600 but the future may hold new opportunities. Never hurts to have that extra room to adjust, so I would advocate going with the 20MOA by default.
                      This, there is no reason to use a 0 degree rail.

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                      • #12
                        DSB
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1005

                        Originally posted by RobG
                        This, there is no reason to use a 0 degree rail.
                        The more I read, I see your point. I am now leaning toward a 20 moa rail and individual rings. I do like what I read about Seekins.

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                        • #13
                          DSB
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 1005

                          After doing some more research, I am looking primarily at the TPS rings and the Seekins rings.

                          I read good things about both companies (other than Thanatos's comments about his experience, above).

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                          • #14
                            Thanatos2203
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 1200

                            Originally posted by DSB
                            I read good things about both companies (other than Thanatos's comments about his experience, above).
                            It could be user error. I like to think I am intelligent person and followed the instructions but I definitely could have screwed something up in the along the way. I was happy with how solid the rings were in the end, just disappointed that their "special feature" didn't work as advertised for me. It is also possible that the scope was out of spec and the tube wasn't quite at the advertised 30mm. The end result was that they worked pretty much like any other ring on the market and I had to account for reticle rotation when tightening screws. No big deal.

                            Only other recommendations I can think of for scope rings are perhaps a set of Talley's. I know they have a line of tactical models but I have no experience with them. Larue and ADM also make one piece mounts but the price is going to start to increasing. Spuhr if you have money to burn.
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                            • #15
                              RobG
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 4887

                              I love Seekins gear and use it on my match guns. Never an issue, tough as can be, and CS is top notch. The TPS rings are nice for the price, however. Honestly though, unless a tube diameter change is in your near future, spend the extra bucks on the Seekins.

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