Matech or GG&G MAD BUIS?

[Fate]

Of all the BUIS out there, I prefer the Matech. It's awesome with Aimpoints or EOTechs.

[goaztecs1977]

What if I am not going to have any optics for a while? Still prefer it as my primary sight vs. the others?

[Bobby Ricigliano]

I apologize. I didn't intend my comment in a negative way. I was sincerely thanking you for your input and commenting that the gg&g was the more expensive option. I should have reversed the 2 sentences and it would have come out better.

No worries whatsoever. GG&G isn't ever cheap, but it is quality stuff. The main reason why I put the GG&G sight on my "primary" AR was to set it up exactly like our carbines are at work (with Eotech, standard A2 front sight post, and Surefire light on an Elzetta mount.)

Matech is battle tested as a military sight and also a great choice. There are tons in circulation and often available cheap on the secondary markets. You really can't lose either way.

I would add though that for a "first AR", I would seriously consider a carry handle rear sight and spend some meaningful time shooting with irons only before messing with red dots, cowitnessing, ETC.

[Fate]

What if I am not going to have any optics for a while? Still prefer it as my primary sight vs. the others?

Yessir.

I think M16A4 carry handle sights are overly complex for the task.

[goaztecs1977]

I am not planning on any red dot type of sight at this time for the reasons you suggested. I'd like to get comfortable and proficient with the irons first. Plus, I'd like to go with good quality in that component so budget-wise, it is at least 6 months down the road. But, for some reason I don't really like the looks of the carry handle sights. It seems like an outdated look. I prefer the lean lines of the flip up and I assume they are lighter? Plus, when I do get a red dot type of optical, I can use the flipups where with the carry handle I would have to do a replacement...right?

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Yessir.

I think M16A4 carry handle sights are overly complex for the task.

I completely disagree. If there is no RDS or optic, BUIS are silly and a carry handle is a better choice.

[goaztecs1977]

My issued M4 had MaTech as well, it sat below a ACOG. I didn't care for it, and I actually preferred the rear irons of the M16 I had during basic.

Have you considered Troy? I love them! https://troyind.com/products/rear-folding-sight-blk

Yes, I do like these. They are a strong possibility as well.

[Fate]

I completely disagree. If there is no RDS or optic, BUIS are silly and a carry handle is a better choice.

I agree with you to a point. Fixed sights are better if no optic is ever going to be used. However, in that case, I prefer the M16A1 sight.

I like simplicity. I still feel the M16A2/M16A4 sight is overly complex for the task.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

My issued M4 had MaTech as well, it sat below a ACOG. I didn't care for it, and I actually preferred the rear irons of the M16 I had during basic.

Have you considered Troy? I love them! https://troyind.com/products/rear-folding-sight-blk

There are some political objections to Troy products in segments of the 2A community.

[goaztecs1977]

Is there some kind of boycott because of regulations and them supplying government agencies?

[Junkie]

No, it has to do with who they hire and what those people did before they were hired.

[goaztecs1977]

No, it has to do with who they hire and what those people did before they were hired.

Is there a link you can provide that will fill me and others in?

[ArmsUnlimited]

Matech is what Colt rifles are issued with. We have them the cheapest anywhere

https://www.armsunlimited.com/MaTech-Mil-Spec-Back-Up-Iron-Sight-p/buis.htm

[goaztecs1977]

A lot of people seem to like the matech. About the only complaint I've read about is the small aperture. I haven't found a front sight by matech. If they don't make one, what is a good iron front to match it up with? Thanks

[jrpowell3]

When I finally get around to buying the RCO for my AR, I will also be purchasing the MaTech BUIS.

All the issued M4s that I came across in my service had the A2 front sight post, therefore a back up front sight wasn't necessary. Hence why I don't think MaTech designed any.

Fortunately, my AR also has the A2 front sight also.