Does anyone see a problem with this scope mounting?

[beanz2]

Hey guys,

I finally got around to mounting a scope on my VEPR 308. The problem is keeping the scope low enough for a decent cheek weld (as is the case with the most of my AK rifles.) So, I used RS Regulate 303 side mount and AKR rail, to which Seekins low mount scope rings were attached. I had to shave a bit off the rail to allow for the power adjustment ring.

This is how it ends up looking:


The scope clears the rear sight by a hair's breadth, I can see a sliver of daylight between the scope and the top of the rear sight when it is left on the "n" position, the lowest rearmost spot.

The problem is, both scope rings could only be fitted behind the adjuster knobs, not one in front and one behind, as I see most people attach theirs. If I attach one scope mount in front and one behind the knobs, the entire scope would sit too far back for me to use it comfortably, and I would not be able to shoot the rifle from kneeling position or prone.

If I use an AR style mount on the rail, the scope would sit very high and I lose my precious cheek weld.

Comments?

[FMJBT]

I like it. Granted, the ring arrangement is not the best, but I think you should be fine with a lighter weight scope like you are using.

[SoldierLife7]

I like it. Granted, the ring arrangement is not the best, but I think you should be fine with a lighter weight scope like you are using.

Now go put a few hundred rounds through it and report back with the results!



Oh yeah... In before all the AK "purists"!

[beanz2]

Now go put a few hundred rounds through it and report back with the results!



Oh yeah... In before all the AK "purists"!

Will do. Too bad my favorite range is closing in less than half an hour!

[FiveSeven]

I don't see a problem. should be enough scope surface to hold it secure.

[ElvenSoul]

if it works it works. Might get a little front end wiggle but it should stay on.

[JMP]

It looks a little far forward. Are you sure you do not have too much eye relief? If you do, then you can move the scope back a little and use a ring on each side of the knobs. That would also help with clearance on the front sight. But, that's a determination you need to make.

[beanz2]

Thanks for the replies. The eye relief looks perfect for me for standing, kneeling sitting and prone. If I intentionally place my face any closer, I start seeing the shadow around the periphery. I notice that in the prone my face tends to get a lot closer to the scope, and upright it is the farthest.

Now if I can find a nice soft cheekriser, I'd be set.

That and finding my bipod somewhere in the closet . . .

[shortround1]

I've been wondering lately if a Triad stock pack would fit an AK. Has anybody tried that? May not work with those damned grip wraps though.

Edit: Just noticed the OP's stock is an unusual shape.

[Webologist]

Range report?

I wonder if the front sight taps or dents the scope under recoil. A gap when static doesn't guarantee a gap when firing, so I hope that works out OK for you.

Great looking rifle BTW.

[beanz2]

Range report?

I wonder if the front sight taps or dents the scope under recoil. A gap when static doesn't guarantee a gap when firing, so I hope that works out OK for you.

Great looking rifle BTW.

I'm afraid the range report is not too great . . . most of it is my own inconsistency.

These are my zero in targets at 50 yds. Zero in was first with 150gr steel case Herter's then with Freedom Munitions 147 gr reloads as I got closer. I would shoot one shot, then make adjustments to the scope, then shoot another then adjust again, etc. I should have at least shoot three shots and adjusted, I guess.



Too bad I only had a limited time to shoot, but I will be back to the range someday soon. How much better will the shots be if I use more expensive ammo?

Oh, ignore the smaller holes, those are from another gun... obviously

[Pauliedad]

I shoot 4 or 5 if I'm playing with glass on the AKs before I make adjustments.
If you're new to an AK trigger, that's not that bad. A while back I got the itch to see if I could tighten up groups by hand loading my own ammo and found while I could improve them, they were not going to net me the improvement I was looking for. My take away? It's an AK!
You're right to start at 50. You'll get that dialed in then when you go to 100, you'll truly appreciate the slop that is an AK.
I love them but they are not really bench rest rifles.

[FiveSeven]

^
I own more than a few that will do 1" from the bench rest with this ammo.



Or this .308, , more accurate/precise than most bolt guns I've had.

[beanz2]

So things did not work out very well with my VEPR's set up. On the second range session, I noticed my groups were spread much more horizontally than vertically. Then I saw that now the scope can be moved side to side with respect to the rifle eventhough all the mounting screws were tight. The RS regulate mount was moving against the VEPR optic rail. I took it off at home and noticed this:


I wrote to Scot Hoskinson, the owner of RS Regulate, who graciously offered to send me a new RS-303 mount. In his opinion, the way I have mounted the scope was too far forward putting undue leverage on the rear of the mount. He suggested that I try to move the scope backward to minimize the torque arm. I will try that when the replacement mount arrives while keeping a close eye on the mount.

The problem may be that the way I shoot (mainly prone, rifle supported on an object like backpack, ammo can and/or sandbags) places my head so far forward that my nose almost touches the top cover (nose-to-charging-handle in AR terms.)

Thoughts?

[SVT-40]

It looks like the mount was not tight enough, and was moving under recoil...The clamp is adjustable for clamp tension. Try tightening it.