thoughts on Vortex scope

[deviljon]

@devilon how far have gone with it?

At this time I have the aac-sd version sitting in an AICS 1.5 stock and probably going with a JP muzzle brake. Will be getting that vortex razor HD scope and just have to decide on the scope rings.

[postal]

Dev J...

Check out "Ross schuler muzzle brakes" (google) Well designed, VERY effective and VERY inexpensive. They do need to be fit by a smith to 'time the brake'... In socal, Check out Randall (AR15Barrels)- he's installed 2 for me, and a lot of other people I know.

As to rings... TPS is the cheapest of the quality rings. Vortex rings are very good- They're actually Glen Seekins, but cheaper than Seekins branded rings. ARC is very good but really expensive as is Badger.

I have TPS myself for my bushnell 34mm tube on my bolt gun. The cheapest of the quality stuff..... That doesnt impress anyone, but works very well.

I have a Warne mount for my AR that holds my PST 6-24 ffp mil/mil.

[Darklyte27]

I have a few of the pst line, quality optics. I scored a new 6-24x PST on amazon for 820$. I also have a SSHD 5-20X.

[deviljon]

Dev J...

Check out "Ross schuler muzzle brakes" (google) Well designed, VERY effective and VERY inexpensive. They do need to be fit by a smith to 'time the brake'... In socal, Check out Randall (AR15Barrels)- he's installed 2 for me, and a lot of other people I know.

As to rings... TPS is the cheapest of the quality rings. Vortex rings are very good- They're actually Glen Seekins, but cheaper than Seekins branded rings. ARC is very good but really expensive as is Badger.

I have TPS myself for my bushnell 34mm tube on my bolt gun. The cheapest of the quality stuff..... That doesnt impress anyone, but works very well.

I have a Warne mount for my AR that holds my PST 6-24 ffp mil/mil.

Thanks for the recommendations dude! I've read about the Ross Schuler brakes and Randall has also helped me with pinning some muzzle devices. Unfortunately, I've moved to OC so he's even further from me now, and with the amount of time and gas spent driving over to him, the savings on the brake would more than likely be a wash.

I've also looked at the APA products (little bastard and fat bastard). A little pricier, but that design intrigues me haha. I don't know how effective they actually are, but they look cool!

For scope rings, the original idea was to go with a 1-piece QD mount. Alternatively, I was highly considering Seekins Precision low rings since some of the other SP products I own seem to be very good quality, so I trust their products. I still have time to research and decide, since I plan to buy it after my tax refund comes in.

[deviljon]

BTW OP, I just stumbled across this today.

Vortex Viper PST 6-24X50 FFP Riflescope EBR-2c(moa)

https://www.gunsnammostore.com/p-126613-vortex-viper-pst-6-24x50-ffp-riflescope-ebr-2cmoa-pst-43127.aspx

There's a 10% off Vortex scopes going on and with shipping it comes out to $865.

[madstyle1]

Right on thank you

[OpticsPlanet]

I think you'll be very happy with the scope. They're one of our better sellers and get great feedback from customers. Top notch glass and quality for the price-range.

Mike C.

[JMP]

Get, the 6-24x50 FFP. That's a solid entry level scope. It's got a lot of features. The glass is horrible (worst part of it), but it fine for folks starting off. You can't get everything in an entry level scope. However, the poor glass isn't a huge deal since the elevation range is pretty limited, so you can't shoot that far anyways, but still plenty far for a short action.

[deviljon]

Okay hoping I could get a little more input from you gentlemen. I just bought this qd mount for my vortex razor. Forgot to check if it's 0moa or 20moa. Any way to identify? I was recommended the 20moa version would be better if I plan to shoot past 800+ yards.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/826681/american-defense-recon-s-quick-release-scope-mount-picatinny-style-ar-15-flat-top-matte?cm_mmc=se_service-_-OrderConfirmation-_-OrderConfirmation-_-ProductLink

[ExtremeX]

Okay hoping I could get a little more input from you gentlemen. I just bought this qd mount for my vortex razor. Forgot to check if it's 0moa or 20moa. Any way to identify? I was recommended the 20moa version would be better if I plan to shoot past 800+ yards.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/826...-_-ProductLink

That's the 0 MOA version...

Just look at the manufacture website for details...

http://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/?page=shop/browse&category=opticmounts_scopemounts&keyword=&pagenumber=2

That optic has 125 MOA / 36 MRAD of elevation available to you... it would be wise to reference some generic drop data for your rifle/load combination to give you an idea if you even need a mount with some elevation.

What rifle is this going on? If its a bolt action you can just get a 20 MOA base...

If its for an AR, you would probably want a forward cantilever mount with 20 MOA if needed.

There are also different height options available, something to take into consideration unless you are running a chassis or stock with an adjustable comb as they do make a lower height version of the same mount "Recon-SL"...

Just curious but why not just go with a quality set of rings, like Seekins, if you are running it on a bolt action? Repeatable return to zero can be achieved with any mount, even non-QD mounts, just use a torque wrench... Its a tool you should have anyways when mounting optics.

[deviljon]

That's the 0 MOA version...

Just look at the manufacture website for details...

http://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/?page=shop/browse&category=opticmounts_scopemounts&keyword=&pagenumber=2

That optic has 125 MOA / 36 MRAD of elevation available to you... it would be wise to reference some generic drop data for your rifle/load combination to give you an idea if you even need a mount with some elevation.

What rifle is this going on? If its a bolt action you can just get a 20 MOA base...

If its for an AR, you would probably want a forward cantilever mount with 20 MOA if needed.

There are also different height options available, something to take into consideration unless you are running a chassis or stock with an adjustable comb as they do make a lower height version of the same mount "Recon-SL"...

Just curious but why not just go with a quality set of rings, like Seekins, if you are running it on a bolt action? Repeatable return to zero can be achieved with any mount, even non-QD mounts, just use a torque wrench... Its a tool you should have anyways when mounting optics.

Okay thanks. This is going on a Remington 700 with a Badger Ordnance mount. Just checked and it's a 20moa mount.

The Seekins rings cost nearly the same so I figured the QD feature was just a bonus. The stock I'm using is the AICS 1.5.

[ExtremeX]

Okay thanks. This is going on a Remington 700 with a Badger Ordnance mount. Just checked and it's a 20moa mount.

The Seekins rings cost nearly the same so I figured the QD feature was just a bonus. The stock I'm using is the AICS 1.5.

Well, if you are using a 20 MOA base, then you are in good shape. The mount you selected will work fine.

Just my opinion, but the QD mount may not buy you as much mileage as you think. It is convenient being tool-less, but its return to zero leave a bit to be desired on a precision rifle. I would recommend a zero check or fine tune each time you take it off. It really depends on how you intend to use it, and how often you remove it from the rifle.

I get better return to zero using Seekins rings and a torque wrench, but I don't remove my optic often either so being tool-less does not bother me.

This is what you can expect from that mount.


And compare that to the Bobro

[deviljon]

I looked at the Bobro as well, it was recommended to me first. But once I saw the price tag I had to move on. Can't spend $300+ on a scope mount at this time!

[ExtremeX]

I looked at the Bobro as well, it was recommended to me first. But once I saw the price tag I had to move on. Can't spend $300+ on a scope mount at this time!

You may have misunderstood my post... I was only showing the Bobro as a comparison, not trying to make a case for it.

If anything I was trying to make a case for fixed rings... My TPS and Seekins rings have better return to zero than the ADM when using a torque wrench.

I was only trying to demonstrate its use scenario, If you are constantly taking it off and the QD is important to you, ADM for a precision rifle isn't that great of a mount. If you are installing it, and leaving it alone, its going to work just like any other good mount.

There are times I have to remove my scope, but its always reinstalled using a torque wrench. It cost less, and does a better job.

It just depends on how you intent to use it, and how important the QD feature really is. The ADM was still a premium over a set of traditional rings, and a torque wrench is something you should already own if working on scopes/mounts.

[Darklyte27]

So just leave your optic on the gun!