Changing the digital lock on your safe for a spin dial lock.

[bill_k_lopez]

Anyone interested in knowing how to do this?

[rcschummers]

Yes

[fast318]

Yes

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[tiechshlime]

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[boukca]

Why? So it takes longer to access your weapons if needed for an emergency?

[sherm2954]

I had mine changed when I bought it. Dials won't fail like electronics. At least that's my theory.

[boukca]

I had mine changed when I bought it. Dials won't fail like electronics. At least that's my theory.

Ok, what is their battery and failure rate?

[bill_k_lopez]

Ok, what is their battery and failure rate?

8 -10 years average before internal lock mechanism breaks - and you then need to drill out the safe. And the statement is correct - a dial will never fail.

I'm changing mine out right now.

I also wouldn't consider going and opening a gun safe the quickest method of accessing a weapon in an emergency. This is what they make gun vaults for if you need to keep your firearm locked up and close.

[Bikertrash]

I would like to know as well in the event of the dreaded EMP attack.

[BigStiCK]

Why, yes I would.

Taggers.

[bill_k_lopez]

I'm working with a Cannon Scout Fire Safe.

First thing I did was remove the inside panel covering the door's interior guts. I'm not sure what the correct procedure is for doing this but the way I did it was to slide some rigid plastic on the sides of the panel and pulled until the sheet rock bowed enough to be able to get my hands behind it - then just lifted it out of the channel. You need to be careful as I'm sure if you go at it balls out you're going to break the sheet rock.





You can't see the actual lock mechanism from the first pick, its being blocked by the relocker plate. You can see the lock mechanism in the second picture.

Now - before I got to removing the parts, I needed to see what kind of lock I needed to replace it with. My neighbor IS a locksmith and told me that the most common lock for safes are Sargent & Greenleaf (S&G) model 6730. But that there are other types of S&G locks and that I would need to check to see if the holes in my safe line up to match the holes for and S&G 6730.

Sure enough - its a match (luckily that same neighbor brought me home 2 S&G lock kits to fit and match - saved me the hassle of buying and returning trying to find the right fit).

These two videos show how to remove the SecuRam digital lock and how to install an S&G lock.

remove the digital lock:



Install S&G 6730:



When I'm done switching out the lock completely I'll post the before and after picks.

[tuolumnejim]

Why? So it takes longer to access your weapons if needed for an emergency?

Nope, just so you can get in the safe. Go read my horror story here.

[Squirly]

Nice vids

[Spyguy]

I would like to know as well in the event of the dreaded EMP attack.

Realize that it's not terribly difficult or time-consuming to open any RSC without manipulating the locking mechanism at all.

RSC's are only a temporary deterrent to theft. They keep honest people honest, prevent child access, and thwart "grab & go" type thefts. Other than that, they just slow down access a little.

[rero360]

8 -10 years average before internal lock mechanism breaks - and you then need to drill out the safe. And the statement is correct - a dial will never fail.

I'm changing mine out right now.

I also wouldn't consider going and opening a gun safe the quickest method of accessing a weapon in an emergency. This is what they make gun vaults for if you need to keep your firearm locked up and close.

Would that breakage be in just the electronics portion? I have an electronic safe that can be opened via a skeleton key if need be. Would that failure cause the skeleton key to become unusable as well?