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  • magnum8898
    Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 104

    ID a Bolt Action

    Here is one for all you C&R guru's. Saw a Mauser Style Bolt action on the front page of today's Wall Street Journal. Anybody have an idea of what it actually is. It is being held by a rebel in the mid east. Looks like an old war horse.
  • #2
    Tom-ADC
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 3614

    Last edited by Tom-ADC; 01-20-2015, 3:58 PM.
    US Navy Retired, NRA Lifetime member. Member CRPA

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    • #3
      Crunch130
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 750



      Might be able to see it from that link. Is that what you were asking about? Looks like a pre-WWII Mauser, the standard service rifle in numerous countries in the middle east prior to the adoption of semi-autos.

      LR Mauser, flat butt plate, straight bolt handle, solid wood stock. No stock donut (bolt take-down disc) or marking disk. The only thing throwing me is what looks like odd rear sight ears.

      Could be a Turk, a Czech 98/22 (sold to Turkey) or 98/29 (sold to Persia) or something else. Could be the rear sight is the Lange-Vizier (rollercoaster) on a Gew 98 - some of those ended up in Turkey. With all the other guys with AK's, maybe he's the squad designated marksman?

      Crunch
      Last edited by Crunch130; 01-20-2015, 11:56 AM.
      "The fate of unborn millions will now depend, under God, on the courage and conduct of this army"- General George Washington July 2, 1776

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      • #4
        TRAP55
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2008
        • 5536

        Never seen a military rear sight like that on a Mauser.
        Take a close look at the bolt handle shaft, and the side of the stock below the receiver rail, and the left side of the bolt shroud.

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        • #5
          Emdawg
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 4292

          Probably a Turk contract. The Arabs captured a lot of them in WWI and the Turks probably sold some to various fighting groups in the region.

          That goofy looking sight looks to be a scope mount.
          *sniff* *sniff* Commies...

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          • #6
            Irrelavant
            Member
            • Oct 2013
            • 356

            Originally posted by Crunch130
            http://www.wsj.com/articles/rebels-b...ace-1421650439

            Might be able to see it from that link. Is that what you were asking about? Looks like a pre-WWII Mauser, the standard service rifle in numerous countries in the middle east prior to the adoption of semi-autos.

            LR Mauser, flat butt plate, straight bolt handle, solid wood stock. No stock donut (bolt take-down disc) or marking disk. The only thing throwing me is what looks like odd rear sight ears.

            Could be a Turk, a Czech 98/22 (sold to Turkey) or 98/29 (sold to Persia) or something else. Could be the rear sight is the Lange-Vizier (rollercoaster) on a Gew 98 - some of those ended up in Turkey. With all the other guys with AK's, maybe he's the squad designated marksman?

            Crunch
            IMHO it is a GEW98. Here is mine for comparison:

            Last edited by Irrelavant; 01-20-2015, 2:36 PM.

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            • #7
              TRAP55
              Calguns Addict
              • Jul 2008
              • 5536

              Nailed it! Now WTH is going on with the stock?

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              • #8
                Irrelavant
                Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 356

                Originally posted by TRAP55
                Nailed it! Now WTH is going on with the stock?
                What is the Arabic word for "Bubba"? Looks heavily sanded, really killed the collector value. Now it is just a shooter

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                • #9
                  TRAP55
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 5536

                  Look close below the receiver rail.
                  You can see a two vertical lines, one at the rear of it, and one in front. When I blew up the pic, the lines are metal, and look like they're attached to the receiver. Almost like some kind of takedown rifle.

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                  • #10
                    Emdawg
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 4292

                    Oh crap, that is a Gew 98! From the angle I thought it was a mount of some sort. Dee duh dee!
                    *sniff* *sniff* Commies...

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                    • #11
                      magnum8898
                      Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 104

                      Thanks for the efforts. Not sure on being the unit designated marksman with those sights. I wonder where is getting the ammo for it? The Knives also caught my attention. Those guys look serious about having their voice heard.
                      Based on the article, having arms of some type gives teeth to the idea of having your vote count.

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                      • #12
                        Crunch130
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 750

                        Originally posted by magnum8898
                        Not sure on being the unit designated marksman with those sights.
                        Compared to what you can do with the heavily-used AK's in the middle east?

                        As a Mauser lover I was joking, but I think it might actually work.

                        Crunch
                        "The fate of unborn millions will now depend, under God, on the courage and conduct of this army"- General George Washington July 2, 1776

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                        • #13
                          magnum8898
                          Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 104

                          Based on the above comments, looks like that Mauser has been in the Middle East since the fall of the Ottoman Empire. Now it maybe in the presidential palace.

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                          • #14
                            glennsche
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 1831

                            Originally posted by magnum8898
                            Based on the above comments, looks like that Mauser has been in the Middle East since the fall of the Ottoman Empire. Now it maybe in the presidential palace.
                            since *before* the fall of the ottoman empire

                            ask all those anzacs who were killed at gallipoli
                            "If the American Left wanted to decrease interest in shooting, they should have the government make it mandatory like they do here in Switzerland. Nothing makes you not want to do something like when the government makes you do it."

                            "I'm over you." -Citadelgrad87

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                            • #15
                              knucklehead0202
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 4086

                              Originally posted by glennsche
                              since *before* the fall of the ottoman empire

                              ask all those anzacs who were killed at gallipoli
                              True enough.

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