9x18 Mak Triumvirate

[Capybara]

I've seen lots of people calling communist-era military pistols from Hungary, Romania Poland or Czechoslovakia by the name "Makarov". That is inaccurate. Huns, Poles, Czechs and Romanians had their own designs but because they were part of the Warsaw Pact they were required to use the same caliber round like anyone else in the alliance.
Only one pistol in your pictures is a Makarov. The other two just shoot a round called 9X18 mm Makarov and have very little else in common with the Makarov design other than the caliber and the simple blowback system.
So calling the three pistols "Makarov" it's like you would say you have three Luger pistols, but in fact only one is a Luger and the other two are Glock shooting the 9 X19 Luger round.

Saigon got it right, that's why I named the thread "9x18 Makarov Triumvirate". I've been telling everyone else that P64s, CZ82s and PA63s aren't Makarov pistols, they are pistols that shoot the 9x18 Makarov round. Out of all three, the Makarov is the best looking, the CZ has the best DA trigger and the P64 is one of the most fun to shoot. Still haven't figured out why everyone seems to think the P64 has a lot of recoil and that the DA trigger is the worst. I think it recoils just fine, not too much and the DA trigger on mine measures a mere 16lbs. It's heavy but I have worse. I can hit with it even in DA.

[Enfield47]

Stechkin APS! jk... we could all wish.

Now that would be an awesome addition. Although it's best saved for living in free state so you can shoot 20 rounds full auto.

[fal_762x51]

My PA63 has a heavier recoil and a lighter hammer springs. It made a world of difference.

[sickboybrad]

I cant find one without the adjustable rear sight.
well I can, but not cheap and not local
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[Heatseeker]

Lot's of nice 9X18 pistols guys!

I've always had a soft spot for the 9X18s, since my first handgun purchase was this one:


Not a C&R, but a great little gun. I had hours of fun shooting it through the years. I remember buying boxes of 1000 surplus rounds at the gun shows for $139. Those days are long gone...

[Capybara]

Capy - You need more colors!

BTW, beautiful Makarov collection Saigon! Maybe someday I can join you and acquire all of the variants.

[mj1]

How do you like the P64? Thinking of getting a box of the Polish for the girlfriends.

..MJ..

[Capybara]

Personally, I love it. It is on my CCW, I shoot it better than the other two pistols believe it or not. Great little guns although if your girlfriend is recoil sensitive, don't get it. A lot of people find them too snappy, although I don't at all. Also, the DA trigger is pretty stiff although the SA is surprisingly nice. They are not perfect but overall, a lot of bang for the buck.

[IEatZ28]

The p64 is great, I love mine. But not as much as the mak I pick up Sunday. The p64 is compact which I liked. Kicked oddly hard for a 9x18 but not to bad.

[ThighSlapper]

[Capybara]

So that's what a Russian commercial looks like. Very nice. The fit and finish looks pretty good.

[IEatZ28]

I pick up my ij70 - 18a tomorrow I'll post pictures when I do

[I Swan]

Did you add the red star Bakelite grips to that IJ70? I think most if not all of them came with a different style grip.

[mj1]

So I called my FFL and he says the p64 is not c&r in Ca. So how do we get one shipped from AIM?

[I Swan]

Your FFL is being a tard find one that knows the law.