The Pedersen device - Semi automatic 1903 Springfield conversion

[81turbota]

A gun store in Los Angeles currently has a 1903 modified for the Pedersen device, but the actual device is not present.

I thought it was a pretty cool find!

[2meterB]

A gun store in Los Angeles currently has a 1903 modified for the Pedersen device, but the actual device is not present.

I thought it was a pretty cool find!

What do they want for it?

[Mud Eagle]

A gun store in Los Angeles currently has a 1903 modified for the Pedersen device, but the actual device is not present.

I thought it was a pretty cool find!

M1903 Mark Is aren't really all that rare.

[SonofWWIIDI]

http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/52/lid/3653

Says the estimate was $40-60k. Doesn't say what it actually sold for.

[SonofWWIIDI]

Orders were cancelled, but production continued until 1920 in case further conflicts arose. Remington eventually produced around 65,000 units in total. In the late 1920's the M1 Garand was developed which negated the need for the Pedersen Device and in 1931 the Pedersen Device was declared surplus, five years before the M1 Garand even started production. Existing M1903 Mk. I's were converted back to their original configuration with a now vestigial ejection port. The government, no longer wanting to pay to store the device ordered them all destroyed. Nearly all were burned in a large fire, resulting in less than 100 estimated to be surviving today, let alone with their full accessory kit!

http://rockislandauction.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-pedersen-device.html?m=1

[Full Clip]

Jerry is a great ambassador of our 2ndA right and the shooting arts. Master at his craft, down-to-earth and a genuine combo of humility and pride.

[McNally M.]

How did this device work? Was it blow back or toggle, like a Luger? I've never seen it in operation.

[The Last American Hero]

I'm thinking 40rds is still lot more than 10 or 8 or 7 or 6 of M1 or 1911 or revolver.

10 or 8 or 7 or 6 you could almost count the other guys shots.

40-ish and all I'm thinking is "wow, that is a lotta lead"

[Bobby Ricigliano]

http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...id/52/lid/3653

Says the estimate was $40-60k. Doesn't say what it actually sold for.

I'd like to corner one of those tweed and elbow patched blazer wearing, salt and pepper bearded, academic military round table university historian antique road show talking head high end collector types, studying cartouches with a magnifying glass while stroking his beard, preparing to write a 5 digit check for a Pedersen Mark 1 (Inheritance... he never left the university after graduating and was born into old money) and ask him:

BRO, DO YOU EVEN SHOOT??

Perhaps afterward I can listen to a 1.5 hour speech where he carefully analyzes and critiques the weapons, tactics, and soldiery of some great military campaign from antiquity. Maybe he will give us a monologue of how Lee kept frustrating Grant and inflicting heavy Union casualties during the 1864 campaign, or perhaps the folly of Hitler's last great offensive in the Ardenne. When he is done speaking and sipping on a glass bottle of Voss water while wiping the sweat from his brow with a mongrammed handkerchief, I'll raise my hand an ask:

BRO, DID YOU EVEN SERVE?

[Mustang]

Very pricey if you can find one.

I've seen two at auction in the last 5 years...both went for about 50K

[smle-man]

I visited a fellow's collection that had at least two Pedersen devices in it and the bullet hole in an air duct from shooting rounds from the device on his indoor range. He missed the target.

The device resembles an AR15 .22 conversion kit at first glance.

[ccandgc]

I recently finished correcting a Mk1. Found a correct stock, trigger and correct cutoff and pin.....I'd love to see one in person some day....

[Edvil91]

I'd like to corner one of those tweed and elbow patched blazer wearing, salt and pepper bearded, academic military round table university historian antique road show talking head high end collector types, studying cartouches with a magnifying glass while stroking his beard, preparing to write a 5 digit check for a Pedersen Mark 1 (Inheritance... he never left the university after graduating and was born into old money) and ask him:

BRO, DO YOU EVEN SHOOT??

Perhaps afterward I can listen to a 1.5 hour speech where he carefully analyzes and critiques the weapons, tactics, and soldiery of some great military campaign from antiquity. Maybe he will give us a monologue of how Lee kept frustrating Grant and inflicting heavy Union casualties during the 1864 campaign, or perhaps the folly of Hitler's last great offensive in the Ardenne. When he is done speaking and sipping on a glass bottle of Voss water while wiping the sweat from his brow with a mongrammed handkerchief, I'll raise my hand an ask:

BRO, DID YOU EVEN SERVE?

Instead of insulting people you've never met, how about thank them for all they did in the collecting world. High-end collectors are the reason we know so much about rare weapons. If it wasn't for them, where would we be able to view such rare pieces in such good shape? They keep history alive! There are guns you shoot, then there are some you preserve for future generations to enjoy.

[Mustang]

Here is one that I was following a few years back...went for 48K plus buyer's premium.

[Mustang]

Was following this also...40K for just the device