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  • BigJ
    Veteran Member
    • May 2010
    • 3172

    The Pedersen device - Semi automatic 1903 Springfield conversion

    Too cool

    "This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave." - Elmer Davis
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    Jeff L
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1219

    Very pricey if you can find one.
    http://www.jouster2.com/forums/forum.php
    vishooter's 1903 page

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    • #3
      BigJ
      Veteran Member
      • May 2010
      • 3172

      I would assume so, given there are thought to be no more than 100 to have survived (and I've read that's crazy optimistic; the number's more like 10-40)
      "This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave." - Elmer Davis

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      • #4
        fal_762x51
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 2719

        There was talk on the weapons guild forum about making a repro. I do not think it ever transpired.
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        • #5
          pitfighter
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 3141

          Just keep you face away from that bolt handle!!!!!
          Pitfighter.
          CA/AZ

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          • #6
            texterter
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 531

            sure don't make them like that anymore.

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            • #7
              GMG
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2008
              • 7974

              I've heard about them, but never saw one.
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              • #8
                2meterB
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 1728

                semi-automatic sub-machinegun!

                That is so cool...

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                • #9
                  gunboat
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 3288

                  The only ones that are rarer are the ones for the 1917 and the moisin-nagant.

                  Many years ago in a gun digest the well known collector william b edwars wrote a piece on them with photos -

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                  • #10
                    Enfield47
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 6385

                    I've never seen one before either. Pretty ingenious for the time, although it seems like it would have been cheaper to give everyone a 1911 for close quarters combat.

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                    • #11
                      CSACANNONEER
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                      • Dec 2006
                      • 44094

                      I actually held one. It was for sale at Oak Tree a few years ago. I forget what the price was.
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                      • #12
                        Bobby Ricigliano
                        Mit Gott und Mauser
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 17439

                        It is easy to find MK1 1903's. However, I have never seen an actual Pedersen device for sale.

                        I like Jerry Miculek. Who is this other guy? Is he a vet, or some sort of grad student / theorist / reenactor type?

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                        • #13
                          gunboat
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 3288

                          I do have a MK 1 springfield, built for the pedersen but the special trigger/ sear has been replaced --

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                            Bobby Ricigliano
                            Mit Gott und Mauser
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 17439

                            Originally posted by Enfield47
                            I've never seen one before either. Pretty ingenious for the time, although it seems like it would have been cheaper to give everyone a 1911 for close quarters combat.
                            The M1 carbine is such a light and handy weapon, that it would almost be feasible to have one slung on your back to supplement your 1903. For the period it was the ideal CQB weapon.

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                            • #15
                              IrishJoe3
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 3804

                              Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                              The M1 carbine is such a light and handy weapon, that it would almost be feasible to have one slung on your back to supplement your 1903. For the period it was the ideal CQB weapon.
                              I agree, except the Pederson Device was developed at the end of WWI (ie "US Automatic Pistol, Caliber .30, Model of 1918"), whereas the Ordinance Department wasn't even petitioned to design a carbine until 1938. And it was n't till late 1941 that the design was approved.

                              But you probably already knew that
                              Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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