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  • #46
    Kappy
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2007
    • 5349

    I'm so afraid you're going to Bubba an M39... and those rifles are too awesome to Bubba.

    I will say that I did this with a 91/30. It doesn't shoot any better. I didn't go archangel... just a laminate. Bent the bolt and scoped it. It'll make a deer rifle.
    Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.

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    • #47
      Kappy
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2007
      • 5349

      Originally posted by pro-nra
      Get with Josh Smith regarding a sub MOA Mosin. From what he said, with some burlap, shims and a pint of snake oil he can make a $90 Mosin shoot sub MOA. I'm sure he can fix you right up to get any Mosin you buy doing circles around an already accurate Swedish M96s or the Swiss K31s. Good luck!
      I've seen his targets. He might be right. Not sub-MOA, but certainly on par with other rifles.
      Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.

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      • #48
        emcon5
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 3347

        Originally posted by Kappy
        I will say that I did this with a 91/30. It doesn't shoot any better. I didn't go archangel... just a laminate. Bent the bolt and scoped it. It'll make a deer rifle.
        How much did you spend, if you don't mind my asking?

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        • #49
          Cowboy T
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2010
          • 5725

          Originally posted by Kappy
          I've seen his targets. He might be right. Not sub-MOA, but certainly on par with other rifles.
          Actually, one of my Mosins will do just under MOA in the hands of a shooter better skilled than I, using modern Prvi Partizan Boxer/brass ammo. Yes, it's in great condition. Not every one will do that, of course; I suspect this is pretty rare.
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          • #50
            crya79
            Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 359

            Originally posted by Kappy
            I'm so afraid you're going to Bubba an M39... and those rifles are too awesome to Bubba.

            I will say that I did this with a 91/30. It doesn't shoot any better. I didn't go archangel... just a laminate. Bent the bolt and scoped it. It'll make a deer rifle.
            I hereby promise not to bubba an M39. But I will jack the shiza out of a garden variety Big 5 91/30.

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            • #51
              MongooseV8
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 4426

              Not trying to pry, but is there a reason you are set on a Mosin vs a Mauser or 1903? They are much better for scopes and barrels and stock and triggers ect.

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              • #52
                6mmintl
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 4822

                My M39 1968 is more accurate, just under 1 moa with 174 SMK, 26 grains Varget, Timney trigger, lightened firing pin/striker, pilar/bedded, in a Boyds stock


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                • #53
                  ducky_0811
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 759

                  The Soviet biathlon team has the best shooting mosins, 1968 team I believe, they're called vostok (?) Mosins chambered in 6.5x54r, they out shot the Finn's with their mosins. Good luck finding one though

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                  • #54
                    Wicked Pete
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2010
                    • 5182

                    I have an aftermarket (plastic) stock on one of mine, didn't seem to affect accuracy at all. Lighter stock, kicks harder.

                    BTW: for accuracy, Winchester (and others) makes 54R ammo. Boat tail bullets fly, don't seem to have the drop of corrosive. But....$$$

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                    • #55
                      NOTABIKER
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 7635

                      their are only three things to talk about with these old rifles
                      1. visual condition
                      2. mechanical operation
                      3. accuracy
                      Accuracy gets the most press because that seems to be how owners separate what is good and what is bad.
                      I bet the % of C&R shooters that really care about MOA is VERY small. But it is what is talked about the most. I have been going to the WEGC C&R shoots every month for maybe two years now and have not seen precision shooting very important to the shooters their.
                      For the very small % of C&R owners that want to ramble on about which is better fine. most of us just like these rifles for the history and enjoyment we get out of shooting them.Their is no higher compliment than taking a old C&R out to the range and exercising it and saving it from the smelter.

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                      • #56
                        Sousuke
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 3831

                        Originally posted by NOTABIKER
                        most of us just like these rifles for the history and enjoyment we get out of shooting them.Their is no higher compliment than taking a old C&R out to the range and exercising it and saving it from the smelter.
                        I take the Mosin out when my shoulder muscles get all tight. Nothing like a good beating to relax them.

                        (in reality I just have one that shoots 'ok' I can keep the groups in a 3-4" size at 50 yards though I put a little mark 3" below the bullseye to compensate for the short range. I'm shooting late 1940s ammo until I run out)
                        Everyone on Calguns keeps talking about TDS. I never knew we had so many fish keepers!

                        The TDS on my 10gallon tanks 110ppm
                        The TDS on my 29 gallon tank is 150ppm (due to substrate)

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                        • #57
                          Cowboy T
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 5725

                          Originally posted by NOTABIKER
                          their are only three things to talk about with these old rifles
                          1. visual condition
                          2. mechanical operation
                          3. accuracy
                          Accuracy gets the most press because that seems to be how owners separate what is good and what is bad.
                          I bet the % of C&R shooters that really care about MOA is VERY small. But it is what is talked about the most. I have been going to the WEGC C&R shoots every month for maybe two years now and have not seen precision shooting very important to the shooters their.
                          For the very small % of C&R owners that want to ramble on about which is better fine. most of us just like these rifles for the history and enjoyment we get out of shooting them.Their is no higher compliment than taking a old C&R out to the range and exercising it and saving it from the smelter.
                          Actually, there is one. Generally, all of these old warhorses did shoot pretty well out of the arsenal, and many continue to do so today. If it's not shooting well anymore for whatever reason, then restoring it so that it does, THEN taking it out and exercising it regularly, would qualify.
                          "San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
                          F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
                          http://www.sanfranciscoliberalwithagun.com (reloading info w/ videos)
                          http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast)
                          http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel)
                          ----------------------------------------------------
                          To be a true Liberal, you must be 100% pro-Second Amendment. Anything less is inconsistent with liberalism.

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                          • #58
                            Justintoxicated
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 3836

                            M39's the two stage trigger on them is a huge improvement too. Please don't bubba an M39.

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                            • #59
                              ChuckDizzle
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 4398

                              I bought a 91/30 from Big Five for $170. It has been surprisingly accurate. Usually 3 MOA with the irons (probably could do better with a scope, but not worth it to try for me) and no mods.

                              There is a little rust in the grooves, but otherwise the bore is in good shape. I have only shot Winchester white box out of it though because I'm lazy and don't want to worry about cleaning it right after the range sometimes. Plus I'm rarely shooting more than a dozen or so rounds through it each trip so I don't mind spending a $ a round.

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                              • #60
                                NOTABIKER
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 7635

                                i never bought into German quality in anything. being in the auto repair business for 40 years i can tell you German engineering is very complicate for no good reason and requiring repairs a Japaneses car would not need. and if it did you would not need to go to school to figure out haw to do it.
                                and the Swedish cars are from MARS.
                                give me a nice 1903a3 springfield over a Mauser any day.

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