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  • crya79
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    • Dec 2010
    • 359

    Who has got the best shooting Mosins?

    I'm looking to start a Mosin sporter project using the archangel stock. Would anyone care to opine on who they believe has the best shooting Mosins in stock currently? I'm gtg on 03/COE.

    Thanks.
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    NOTABIKER
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2012
    • 7635

    My Romanian M-44 is my best shooter next to my TULA PU.
    some rifles make good sporters
    1. 1903 Springfield
    2. Mauser
    3. model 1917
    nobody likes Mosins more than i do but i just can't see spending money trying to make a MN into something it is not.
    spend 700 on a nice Mosin PU with a good bore , trick out the trigger. that way you still have a historic 700 dollar rifle.

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    • #3
      Capybara
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      • Feb 2012
      • 15307

      Agree with Notabiker. Mosins are not very smart to Bubba, the dollar to accuracy ratio is all off. Archangel stock is pretty lame and it does nothing to actually enhance the rifle, if anything, it degrades the design. If you want accuracy, buy a cheap, modern rifle and if you want an accurate C&R, get a K31 and put a scope on it. Even the PU Snipers, while cool as heck, are not accurate by modern standards. The K31s are. As far as "the best shooting Mosins", most people would suggest the Finn M39 by far. But if you buy one and put it into an Archangel, you just don't get it.
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      • #4
        emcon5
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 3347

        JG sales has a hand select for bore condition, but otherwise it is really just the luck of the draw.

        On edit:

        Originally posted by Capybara
        Agree with Notabiker. Mosins are not very smart to Bubba, the dollar to accuracy ratio is all off. Archangel stock is pretty lame and it does nothing to actually enhance the rifle, if anything, it degrades the design. If you want accuracy, buy a cheap, modern rifle and if you want an accurate C&R, get a K31 and put a scope on it. Even the PU Snipers, while cool as heck, are not accurate by modern standards. The K31s are. As far as "the best shooting Mosins", most people would suggest the Finn M39 by far. But if you buy one and put it into an Archangel, you just don't get it.
        Yeah, this. You will end up with a goofy looking rifle that will cost about the same (or more if you are wanting optics) as a entry level Savage, which will shoot circles around it.
        Last edited by emcon5; 08-22-2014, 12:50 PM.

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        • #5
          sl0re10
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2013
          • 7242

          Originally posted by crya79
          I'm looking to start a Mosin sporter project using the archangel stock. Would anyone care to opine on who they believe has the best shooting Mosins in stock currently? I'm gtg on 03/COE.

          Thanks.
          its hard to classify it by seller since it seems there are mixes of years and arsenals in the crates they receive. Its always mosin roulette with people posting 'oh yeah; I got X' when they buy one... But My Tula 91/30 from big5 is very accurate... does very well with 150 grain 311 bullets... that's something else; helps accuracy to find the right bullet for the rifle because of the barrel variances...
          Last edited by sl0re10; 08-22-2014, 12:53 PM.

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            crya79
            Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 359

            Originally posted by sl0re10
            its hard to classify it by seller since it seems there are mixes of years and arsenals in the crates they receive. Its always mosin roulette with people posting 'oh yeah; I got X' when they buy one... But My Tula 91/30 from big5 is very accurate... does very well with 150 grain 311 bullets... that's something else; helps accuracy to find the right bullet for the rifle because of the barrel variances...
            Thanks for actually addressing the question.

            Yeah after I posted I realized these would be the responses I would get.

            Guys, the question wasn't about the wisdom of doing the project, but rather a simple survey of the enthusiasts to see if people had strong feelings one way or the other about quality guns from any certain dealer at the moment. That's it. I've already been through the analysis you all suggest so we're all on the same page there.
            Last edited by crya79; 08-22-2014, 2:04 PM.

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            • #7
              TMB 1
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2012
              • 7153

              Forget the Mosin. Get a 24/47 Yugoslavian Mauser. Mine will out shoot all three of my Mosins. Samco Global list barreled actions you could build into a sporter. https://www.samcoglobal.com/1-M24-47.html
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              • #8
                sl0re10
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                • Jan 2013
                • 7242

                Originally posted by crya79
                Thanks yeah after I posted I realized these would be the responses I would get.

                Guys, the question wasn't about the wisdom of doing the project, but rather a simple survey of the enthusiasts to see if people had strong feelings one way or the other about quality guns from any certain dealer at the moment. That's it. I've already been through the analysis you all suggest so we're all on the same page there.
                I'm the only guy that tried to answer your question straight up btw....

                and, again, my Tula 91/30 from Big5 is very accurate.... 91/30s are Mosins. But when vendors buy Mosins they usually get a bunch of different kinds all mixed in the same boxes... so buying mail order by vendor recommendation is still a crap shoot since you don't know what year and arsenal you'll end up with.

                I did a custom stock on it also. Glad I did. Easier to grip so I can keep some of the recoil of the shoulder.
                Last edited by sl0re10; 08-22-2014, 1:54 PM.

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                • #9
                  crya79
                  Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 359

                  Originally posted by sl0re10
                  I'm the only guy that tried to answer your question straight up btw....
                  Yep, and I appreciated that. That's why I quoted you, but forgot to connect the dots. I hear you about the crap shoot. I've ordered from JG, Classic, Samco, Wideners, Royal Tiger etc. Anyway, maybe I'll just look for a proven shooter here in the classifieds. Maybe that's easy. The purist historical preservationists can keep calm and carry on.

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                    CSACANNONEER
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                    Everyone buys crates from the same couple of importers who buy them all from the same place. Who in the hell would think that one vendor gets better shooting rifles than another when they are all surplus guns? Is this even a real question or just a troll?
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                    • #11
                      emcon5
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                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3347

                      Originally posted by sl0re10
                      I'm the only guy that tried to answer your question straight up btw....
                      I did too.

                      I still think it is a dumb idea, but whatever blows you skirt up.

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                      • #12
                        DennisCA
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                        • Jul 2011
                        • 4023

                        Save the bubba-ing for someone else - just get a M39!


                        (this is when I first got the M39 and wasn't use to it - better now)
                        The proof is in the pudding (as the old saying goes) - I got lucky with one group from the 91-30, other than one - the M39 will out a 91-30 every day!
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                        • #13
                          crya79
                          Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 359

                          Originally posted by DennisCA
                          Save the bubba-ing for someone else - just get a M39!


                          (this is when I first got the M39 and wasn't use to it - better now)
                          The proof is in the pudding (as the old saying goes) - I got lucky with one group from the 91-30, other than one - the M39 will out a 91-30 every day!
                          Dang for a second I thought that was iron sights at 100 but then I saw in the corner it was "only" 50. Nice though!

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                          • #14
                            crya79
                            Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 359

                            Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                            Everyone buys crates from the same couple of importers who buy them all from the same place. Who in the hell would think that one vendor gets better shooting rifles than another when they are all surplus guns? Is this even a real question or just a troll?
                            Seriously, it's Friday. CTFO. I didn't say I was an expert in Mosin buying.

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                            • #15
                              Yugo
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                              • Feb 2011
                              • 8359

                              The most accurate mosin, is not a mosin. Don't get me wrong I own many of them and love them all but accuracy is not the reason why.
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