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  • #16
    meaty-btz
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2010
    • 8980

    According to all of the cane gun definitions it is only a regulated cane gun IF it can fire while enclosed in the walking stick.

    A derringer that must be removed from the cane shaft to fire is not a cane gun.
    ...but their exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom.

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    • #17
      TRAP55
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2008
      • 5536

      Originally posted by meaty-btz
      According to all of the cane gun definitions it is only a regulated cane gun IF it can fire while enclosed in the walking stick.

      A derringer that must be removed from the cane shaft to fire is not a cane gun.
      Meaty, the ones I had the dealings with belonged to an elderly lady wanting to sell her late husbands collection. 3 were sword canes, and 3 were were cane guns. Works of art too, engraving, gold inlay, and ivory.
      Two of the cane guns were percussion, one fired through the cane, the other was the pull out pistol type you describe. The third was a .32 rimfire of some kind that fired through the barrel too.
      The pistol type was an even bigger problem because it was a type of cane gun, and it crossed over into the restrictions on sword canes because of the "concealed weapon" aspect. Like I said, this was 20+ years ago, things may have changed.

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      • #18
        meaty-btz
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2010
        • 8980

        Originally posted by TRAP55
        Meaty, the ones I had the dealings with belonged to an elderly lady wanting to sell her late husbands collection. 3 were sword canes, and 3 were were cane guns. Works of art too, engraving, gold inlay, and ivory.
        Two of the cane guns were percussion, one fired through the cane, the other was the pull out pistol type you describe. The third was a .32 rimfire of some kind that fired through the barrel too.
        The pistol type was an even bigger problem because it was a type of cane gun, and it crossed over into the restrictions on sword canes because of the "concealed weapon" aspect. Like I said, this was 20+ years ago, things may have changed.
        What a shame on the loss of history. I am curious on how the pull out type crosses into Cane Gun law because the posted laws only refer very specifically to a gun that can fire without being removed. Kind of like how those "wallet gun holsters" are a no-no in california.. but ONLY because they can be fired from the concealed position (within the wallet).

        Obviously the pull out type becomes a concealed firearm (CC laws) but otherwise? It isn't a disguised gun ala the gun wallet because it wasn't designed to fire while disguised and must be "revealed" to fire.

        It is a shame our government loves to destroy works of art and history.. oh wait... never mind. Of course they love to destroy history.. all the better to rewrite it.

        Reminds me about the issue with an old riding crop I ran into. Made in India, worth a good penny, very old, perfect condition. But.. as with any good crop from that era.. it had a piercing blade (a blade only sharp on the tip) used to dispatch a wounded horse. I doubt it would work well defensibly or offensively because the blade was fairly fragile. Still, laws are laws.. even the most idiotic and asinine ones written by the deepest arseholes on the planet.
        Last edited by meaty-btz; 07-23-2014, 1:56 PM.
        ...but their exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom.

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