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  • richca
    Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 105

    mod please delete

    for deletion
    Last edited by richca; 07-23-2014, 2:51 PM. Reason: mod please delete thread
  • #2
    sealocan
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2012
    • 9950

    without photos that's going to be hard because it's just your description there's no markings. it's just not enough to go on.
    but be careful with cane guns because they are restricted in California and maybe even federally as well. I'm not a lawyer so I can't be sure.
    I suggest you check out the Calguns foundation Wiki information pages that I'll post a link to below.
    if you look around that site you might be able to judge whether you are even legally able to sell or own that.

    my other suggestion would be going to some sites web sites that a specificly for cane gun collectors.







    this may be one of those realy cool finds that everyone wants but no one can legally own.

    my last wild thought is to donate to a firearms or history type museum and get a tax donation receipt or possibly some small compensation.

    good luck.

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    • #3
      Capybara
      CGSSA Coordinator
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2012
      • 15267

      If it is 1898 or older, it is not a firearm, it is an antique but you would need to verify date.

      If it is not an antique, it could need to be registered as an AOW. I own an AOW, a smoothbore shotgun pistol but they also lump in things like flashlight guns and briefcase guns so I would imagine a cane gun could be classified that way. If it is modern, you will want to talk to a firearms attorney before doing anything with it.
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      • #4
        pitfighter
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 3141

        It is an NFA item - 16330. As used in this part, "cane gun" means any firearm mounted
        or enclosed in a stick, staff, rod, crutch, or similar device,
        designed to be, or capable of being used as, an aid in walking, if
        the firearm may be fired while mounted or enclosed therein.
        Last edited by pitfighter; 07-23-2014, 12:48 PM.
        Pitfighter.
        CA/AZ

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        • #5
          Hot Holster
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 912

          Not very practical in this day and age but a cool, interesting find, nevertheless.
          You may not like guns, and choose not to own one. That is your right. You might not believe in God. That is your choice. However, if someone breaks into your home, the first two things you're going to do are, 1) Call someone with a gun, 2) Pray they get there in time.

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          • #6
            EOD Guy
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 1229

            Originally posted by Capybara
            If it is 1898 or older, it is not a firearm, it is an antique but you would need to verify date.

            If it is not an antique, it could need to be registered as an AOW. I own an AOW, a smoothbore shotgun pistol but they also lump in things like flashlight guns and briefcase guns so I would imagine a cane gun could be classified that way. If it is modern, you will want to talk to a firearms attorney before doing anything with it.

            Be careful. The National Firearms Act, which regulates AOWs has a different definition of antique firearm than the Gun Control Act. If an AOW uses commercially available ammunition it is not an antique, regardless of age.
            Last edited by EOD Guy; 07-23-2014, 12:05 PM.

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            • #7
              ElvenSoul
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Apr 2008
              • 17431

              You will most likely have to get a mold of the chamber.
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              • #8
                gun toting monkeyboy
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2008
                • 6820

                Ummm... I was under the impression that those were felonies here in California, regardless of when they were made. Anybody?

                -Mb
                Originally posted by aplinker
                It's OK not to post when you have no clue what you're talking about.

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                • #9
                  Grumpyoldretiredcop
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 6437

                  Monkeyboy is correct.

                  16330. As used in this part, "cane gun" means any firearm mounted or enclosed in a stick, staff, rod, crutch, or similar device, designed to be, or capable of being used as, an aid in walking, if the firearm may be fired while mounted or enclosed therein.
                  24410. Except as provided in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, any person in this state who manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, or possesses any cane gun is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison.
                  So unless it is a percussion cap cane gun (which would not be a "firearm" under the PC unless I'm mistaken), which from the OP's description does not appear to be the case, it cannot be legally possessed/transferred/sold etc. in CA.
                  Last edited by Grumpyoldretiredcop; 07-23-2014, 1:03 PM.
                  I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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                  • #10
                    TRAP55
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 5536

                    Originally posted by pitfighter
                    It is an NFA item - 16330. As used in this part, "cane gun" means any firearm mounted
                    or enclosed in a stick, staff, rod, crutch, or similar device,
                    designed to be, or capable of being used as, an aid in walking, if
                    the firearm may be fired while mounted or enclosed therein.
                    ^^^ This. And unless the law changed since I had to deal with a like situation, doesn't matter when it was made, percussion or cartridge.

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                    • #11
                      71MUSTY
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 7029

                      OMG Coolest thing ever. I can't answer your questions but I'm sure some here can and will if you are patient.


                      In the mean time PICTURES PLEASE?
                      Only slaves don't need guns

                      Originally posted by epilepticninja
                      Americans vs. Democrats
                      We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


                      We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


                      What doesn't kill me, better run

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                      • #12
                        TRAP55
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 5536

                        Jeeze Musty, the guy is looking at a felony just for possession, and you want him to post pics?

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                        • #13
                          71MUSTY
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 7029

                          Yes I do. I would turn it over to LEO's or donate to Museum or disable by filling bore or something.

                          BUT it is a rare piece of history so yes please take pictures first.
                          Only slaves don't need guns

                          Originally posted by epilepticninja
                          Americans vs. Democrats
                          We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


                          We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


                          What doesn't kill me, better run

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                          • #14
                            ElvenSoul
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 17431

                            Get it into the hands of a gunsmith in a state where it can be held legally. Get it appraised for sale or move where you can legally own it.
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                            • #15
                              johnthomas
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 7001

                              I would say, delete the thread and contact oaklander in pm and ask him.
                              I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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