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  • Timm24
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 49

    M1 Garand problem.

    I shot my Garand for the first time the other day and the 7th round fails to feed into the barrel fairly often. The round jams to the left of the barrel. Does anyone have any info on this. Thanks.
  • #2
    Mssr. Eleganté
    Blue Blaze Irregular
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 10401

    How many different clips were you using? Did you use a different clip each time or were you reloading a few clips over and over again?
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    • #3
      Capybara
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      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2012
      • 15268

      I had random FTFs with some cheap, French clips. Replaced them with CMP clips and my Garand has been a happy camper since then with no issues. Might be your clips, the Garands are a bit finicky about the quality of the en blocs.
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        bigbossman
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        • Dec 2012
        • 11020

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        • #5
          smle-man
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2007
          • 10580

          Are the clips loaded to the right? The 7th round jam was corrected by a modification fairly early into its introduction. Hard to imagine that yours would've slipped through.

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          • #6
            Timm24
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2013
            • 49

            How many different clips were you using? Did you use a different clip each time or were you reloading a few clips over and over again?
            I was using 2 of the same clips and reloading them over again.

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            • #7
              Timm24
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 49

              Originally posted by smle-man
              Are the clips loaded to the right? The 7th round jam was corrected by a modification fairly early into its introduction. Hard to imagine that yours would've slipped through.
              By loaded to the right do you mean the top round is on the right?

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              • #8
                Enfield47
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2012
                • 6385

                What is the stamp on the bottom of the enclip? I use the ones from Garand Gear (same ones as CMP sells) and they work great - mine are stamped AEC.

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                • #9
                  Timm24
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 49

                  Originally posted by Enfield47
                  What is the stamp on the bottom of the enclip? I use the ones from Garand Gear (same ones as CMP sells) and they work great - mine are stamped AEC.
                  These are also stamped AEC.

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                  • #10
                    Enfield47
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 6385

                    Well, at least you have the good clips. Are they really tight? I pulled on mine to help loosen them up and they fed better after I did that. I never experienced the problem you are having though. I wonder if one of the original parts is worn enough that it could cause this issue.

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                    • #11
                      jkgts1
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 590

                      Mine did the same, not sure if it was 7th rnd but happened a few times. I also had a couple throw out a spent shell and a live rnd in one motion. Anyone have that happen? I figured it was my clip loading technique. Does loading to the right or left matter?

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                      • #12
                        Mssr. Eleganté
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                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 10401

                        Originally posted by Timm24
                        I was using 2 of the same clips and reloading them over again.
                        If you only have two clips try marking one of them to see if the problem happens with one clip or both clips.
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                        • #13
                          pro-nra
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 2270

                          Although AEC are decent clips and should work, just to make sure it is not the clips since you are only using two, try some USGI like SA, Borg Warner or International Silver. If that don't work, replace the op rod spring with Orion 7. That should solve the majority of the FTF. Should that fail, start replacing the little parts within the receiver that affect timing. Just my $0.20.

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                          • #14
                            smle-man
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 10580

                            Try having the top round loaded to the left and see how it performs. You should have more than two clips. They were never meant to be used over and over - even though they can be.

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                            • #15
                              Father Ted
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 889

                              Originally posted by jkgts1
                              Mine did the same, not sure if it was 7th rnd but happened a few times. I also had a couple throw out a spent shell and a live rnd in one motion. Anyone have that happen? I figured it was my clip loading technique. Does loading to the right or left matter?
                              Loading to right or left is for your preference on which hand (thumb) you use to load the clip, you just want to make sure they are all seated properly. You may notice a series of punctures on a stock from GI's tspping them to seat them. My step dad said they used to also tap them against there helmet before loading One of mine ejected a live round with the spent a few times. The bullet guide was out of spec and a replacement seemed to solve that glitch. But I also replaced all of the springs and follower rod which was bent and also causing a short stroke.
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