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  • #16
    OpenSightsOnly
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 1557

    Toss the SLEDs and the clips - just single load it!

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    • #17
      Kairo
      Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 104

      Originally posted by Discogodfather
      Methods for loading:

      This was exactly the one I was following, and I found it funny how he put in a partially-full clip in and it took...

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      • #18
        Discogodfather
        CGN Contributor
        • Feb 2010
        • 5516

        If it's difficult to load the 8th round in and your getting standouts then the clip is too tight, loosen it by prying the lips apart. The rounds should easily sit against the back wall of the clip without alot of pressure and fuss.

        The method in the above video for loading any amount of rounds is totally legit and works great, just make sure the clip isn't bent inward too much.
        Originally posted by doggie
        Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
        Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
        Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
        "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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        • #19
          smle-man
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2007
          • 10580

          Originally posted by OpenSightsOnly
          Toss the SLEDs and the clips - just single load it!
          I was taught by a crusty CWO that a round was never loaded directly into the chamber of an M1 and the bolt released on it; always from a clip even with a single round. Letting the bolt fly with a round in the chamber may cause a slam fire.

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          • #20
            milotrain
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 4301

            That's less of a problem with good NATO style semi auto primers. Service rifle shooters shoot 40 rounds in a match single loaded not from a clip.
            weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
            frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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            • #21
              Discogodfather
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2010
              • 5516

              Is it possible for a Garand to slam fire? The firing pin rotates/cams as it travels so I don't think it's possible for it to fire out of battery, does the pin protrude enough to strike the primer to slam the primer (it would have to be a pretty sticky firing pin)?
              Originally posted by doggie
              Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
              Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
              Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
              "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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              • #22
                Orlando
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 1827

                Originally posted by Discogodfather
                Is it possible for a Garand to slam fire? The firing pin rotates/cams as it travels so I don't think it's possible for it to fire out of battery, does the pin protrude enough to strike the primer to slam the primer (it would have to be a pretty sticky firing pin)?
                Yes, with non milspec primers

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                • #23
                  Pauliedad
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 2095

                  Good info.
                  5 days till I get to play!

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                  • #24
                    23's Dad
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 502

                    If the "receiver bridge" is worn...

                    Originally posted by Discogodfather
                    Is it possible for a Garand to slam fire? The firing pin rotates/cams as it travels so I don't think it's possible for it to fire out of battery, does the pin protrude enough to strike the primer to slam the primer (it would have to be a pretty sticky firing pin)?
                    Not exactly sure of the terminology, but there is a "bridge" across the inside of the receiver that keeps the firing pin tail cammed back. If that bridge is worn, it will not retain the FP. Add a dirty FP channel and single loading, you may need more than a CCI#34 to avoid a slamfire.

                    When single loading my Garand, I slide the round into the chamber, and then release the bolt while controlling the op-rod handle. Ease the bolt forward about 1/2 way and then let fly. Tap the handle forward to make sure you are fully in-battery.

                    This procedure will reduce the bolt closure force below the closure force of the typical feeding cycle and reduce your chance of a slam-fire. But if your rifle is broken and would have doubled off of the clip, it won't help.

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                    • #25
                      Orlando
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 1827

                      If you look at a round that has been chambered but not fired there will be a dimple in the primer, just like a AR-15
                      For this reason the military primers are harder to prevent the remote possibility of slam fire

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