M1 garand clip latch/bullet guide issue

[Kairo]

Ok, I got an interesting problem. I will list the symptoms.
When pushing in a partially loaded enbloc clip(6-rd), the clip does not latch on. The op rod does not move forward.
When pulling back the op rod while holding the same partially loaded clip in, the clip will latch on and the op rod will give way. I inspected the bullet guide and it still has the small tab on the tip. I notice when the clip is in and then I pull the op rod back, the clip release will shift, but cannot see inside.

My first guess would be to grease it liberally, but I am too used to pistol's needing only a light coating of lube. Should I go and literally cake on the lube on all the movement points?

[NOTABIKER]

if i do not LIGHTLY lube my end block inside my first round will not move forward. after the first one everything is normal.

[OldShooter32]

Grease is a Garand's best friend. Wherever there is white metal, dab on some grease. I use graphite enhanced tractor grease and a $5 can will last a lifetime.
"If it rotates, oil it; if it slides, grease it!"

[NOTABIKER]

one gripe i have with my Grand is if the bullets are not perfectly lined up the farthest round forward will hang up loading and it is a pain to remove the end block and re set it. how the GIs in combat did it right under fire is beyond me.

[Orlando]

The only problem you have is loading a enbloc with 6 rds. If yf load a full enbloc it functions properly, correct?

[pro-nra]

I have to agree. Weird things happens when you partially load an en block and try to load it into a rifle. If your en block is 8 rounds then load 8 rounds and if you don't shoot it all just pull the OR back, hold it and push the clip ejector and out goes the partially loaded clip.

I never was in a situation at matches or plinking that I needed to load a partially loaded clip and I fired lots of rounds though my Garands.

[rivraton]

one gripe i have with my Grand is if the bullets are not perfectly lined up the farthest round forward will hang up loading and it is a pain to remove the end block and re set it. how the GIs in combat did it right under fire is beyond me.

Watch some combat footage, you will see GIs tapping the clips (sometimes on their helmets) against a hard surface before inserting them into the rifle.

[TKM]

The only problem you have is loading a enbloc with 6 rds. If yf load a full enbloc it functions properly, correct?

+1. It's not an AR, it's made to take eight, no more, no less.

[cmichini]

one gripe i have with my Grand is if the bullets are not perfectly lined up the farthest round forward will hang up loading and it is a pain to remove the end block and re set it. how the GIs in combat did it right under fire is beyond me.

You're loading your clips wrong. They should all sit against the flat part and all have a consistent alignment with each other.

"If you have one tall indian in the tribe, they're not all going to fit smoothly in the tent."

[milotrain]

+1. It's not an AR, it's made to take eight, no more, no less.

It takes two just fine.

[smle-man]

Push the 6 rounds and the clip all the way down while holding the oprod back with the other hand until you feel the bolt release. Let the bolt ride over the clip and rounds and close on an empty chamber - control the forward motion of the bolt with the hand on the oprod so that you get your other thumb out of the way! Once the bolt is locked, pull back on the oprod all the way and the clip will be locked in place, let the bolt move forward and strip and chamber a round.

[OldShooter32]

Cartridges need to be fully back, seated against the rear of the clip and the top round on the right. That gives a more positive grip when "thumbing" it into the rifle.
In the National Match Course of fire, it's "two and eight" for rapid fire, and I always loaded the two with an en bloc clip dropped into the magazine well. Some genius made two-round clips, but it was just easier to load the two into the rifle -- preparing for the first string you always had more time to get ready anyway.
My M14/M1A works just fine with "two and eight" though sometimes I forget and tap the back of the magazine on my helmet (when I'm not wearing one) and cause (more) brain damage.

[Kairo]

Alright, testing it with 8 rounds in the clip, the timing is correct, guess it really needs 8 rounds... 6 rounds still work but just need to pull the op rod a bit back so the clip latch will take hold. Had only 6 snap caps, so had to fill the last 2 spots with actual ammo to test this... :\

[milotrain]

I can make you some dummies. Or you can buy them. I don't like .30-06 snap caps usually, they are almost always a very strange size.

[Discogodfather]

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