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  • elsolo
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 4798

    What are K-31's going for nowadays?

    As the title asks,

    What is the going rate for a K31 nowadays?
  • #2
    Discogodfather
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2010
    • 5516

    Cheap eaten up stocks (the later lighter wood re-stocks) can go as low as $250, but a really nice walnut example that has 90%+ blue and no stock marks can go for $750+. Add another +$200 for the diopter sights.

    One thing is sure, they are getting really expensive in the last couple of years. The full 55 sniper is a minimum $3500 and more like $6000 for a good example.

    Check out Simpson LTD. for good examples of expensive lightly used stuff.
    Originally posted by doggie
    Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
    Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
    Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
    "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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    • #3
      elsolo
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 4798

      thanks
      The Simpson LTD link was an eye opener on pricing

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      • #4
        Discogodfather
        CGN Contributor
        • Feb 2010
        • 5516

        Originally posted by doggie
        Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
        Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
        Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
        "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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        • #5
          Justintoxicated
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 3836

          Sometimes beech can be slightly darker and walnut on the lighter side. Of these two (Bottom 2), one is beech and one is walnut. I paid $270 and $525, the second one I feel I paid too much, but I really wanted it hah. The first one was bought about 2 years ago, prices have gone up since then.

          Top is Beech, Bottom is Walnut.

          Wood2 by Glamisduner, on Flickr

          Most of the really good looking ones have been refinished and or refurbished. The top one has never had either done, but the bottom one has been both refurbished by arsenal, then likely refinished by the soldier who decided to keep it some years ago. You can tell because there should be a decently deep cartouch in the stock, if it is light or not very deep the stock has been refinished. As for the rifle, rifles with a stamp on the receiver tang have been arsenal refurbished. Then there are private Series rifles that will go for a few hundred more. They are stamped on the receiver with a 'P'. There's also a mark on some on the barrel that is a 'P' which indicates the rifle was purchased by the solider when their service ended. Also you want all matching numbers. Stock, receiver, barrel, magazine, and bolt. Finally, some rifles have a troop tag under the butt plate as well.
          Last edited by Justintoxicated; 11-04-2013, 2:17 AM.

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          • #6
            Discogodfather
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2010
            • 5516

            Very cool info, thanks.

            I looked for any marks on the tang, nothing. Removed the butt plate and no tag, just some markings of "VII 49". The cartouch looks very deep and crisp.

            The fellow who sold it to me said it was genuine "unissue". There are also no P marks anywhere. Everything is serial matching, mag, stocks, barrel, bolt, etc. The metal looks amazing, I'd say 95%+ blue, but there are spots where you can see the age. Do you think this is the real deal, not a refurb? Also no import marks.

            Last edited by Discogodfather; 11-04-2013, 12:50 AM.
            Originally posted by doggie
            Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
            Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
            Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
            "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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            • #7
              Guisan
              In Memoriam
              • Sep 2012
              • 368

              It's was refurbished by a previous owner, the wood acceptance stamp has faded and the wood is too bright.



              These are new post war K31's, the wood has a different color.
              Last edited by Guisan; 11-04-2013, 1:02 AM.
              Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets.
              No surrender. Fight to the death.

              Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40

              Swissrifles.com forum;
              http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/

              Email: guisan-info@bluewin.ch

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              • #8
                elsolo
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 4798

                I actually have a '53
                All matching numbers, troop tag, beech stock that I refinished with BLO back in about 2002.
                First I was considering selling it, then I thought about buying another one, but they are going for more than I can justify spending right now.
                Stupid rifle disease, it's worse than booze.

                Last edited by elsolo; 11-04-2013, 1:26 AM.

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                • #9
                  Guisan
                  In Memoriam
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 368

                  Postwar K31's were finished with shellac, linseed oil is for the older walnut ones.
                  Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets.
                  No surrender. Fight to the death.

                  Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40

                  Swissrifles.com forum;
                  http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/

                  Email: guisan-info@bluewin.ch

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                  • #10
                    elsolo
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 4798

                    Originally posted by Guisan
                    Postwar K31's were finished with shellac, linseed oil is for the older walnut ones.
                    The shellac was chipped, looked like crap, and I prefer an oil finish.
                    I may regret that one day, but not yet.

                    Anybody know what the infor on the tag means?
                    I assume:
                    Otto Frei was the rifle owner and he was from Will, Switzerland, the rest????
                    Last edited by elsolo; 11-04-2013, 1:37 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Discogodfather
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 5516

                      Hard to believe these sold for less than $100 ten years ago, what a steal. I still think they are still under valued. Also the K11's and 1911's seem even cheaper and still shoot the same 7.5 swiss.

                      Anyone know if this swiss ammo is corrosive? I got 300 rounds with mine in this black box with the straps, it looks so cool! When did they make this ammo? It looks so new.....
                      Originally posted by doggie
                      Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
                      Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
                      Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
                      "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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                      • #12
                        Justintoxicated
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 3836

                        Originally posted by Discogodfather
                        Very cool info, thanks.

                        I looked for any marks on the tang, nothing. Removed the butt plate and no tag, just some markings of "VII 49". The cartouch looks very deep and crisp.

                        The fellow who sold it to me said it was genuine "unissue". There are also no P marks anywhere. Everything is serial matching, mag, stocks, barrel, bolt, etc. The metal looks amazing, I'd say 95%+ blue, but there are spots where you can see the age. Do you think this is the real deal, not a refurb? Also no import marks.
                        Does not look deep to me but pic is pretty fuzzy, but hey, no big deal either way it is still a nice rifle! No import marks is a nice touch.

                        Originally posted by Discogodfather
                        Hard to believe these sold for less than $100 ten years ago, what a steal. I still think they are still under valued. Also the K11's and 1911's seem even cheaper and still shoot the same 7.5 swiss.

                        Anyone know if this swiss ammo is corrosive? I got 300 rounds with mine in this black box with the straps, it looks so cool! When did they make this ammo? It looks so new.....
                        No it is not, and it is good quality ammo.
                        Last edited by Justintoxicated; 11-04-2013, 2:09 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Discogodfather
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 5516

                          Originally posted by Justintoxicated
                          Does not look deep to me but pic is pretty fuxxy, but hey, no big deal either way it is still a nice rifle! No import marks is a nice touch.
                          Right on, I got it to SHOOT not to collect!
                          Originally posted by doggie
                          Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
                          Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
                          Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
                          "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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                          • #14
                            Justintoxicated
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 3836

                            Originally posted by Discogodfather
                            Right on, I got it to SHOOT not to collect!
                            You will love it. They are the best most advanced military bolt action of WWII era. Well if you can get used to the sights anyways. I prefer peep sights myself like the 1903a3, but the rifle itself is quite capable.

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                            • #15
                              Guisan
                              In Memoriam
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 368

                              Originally posted by elsolo
                              The shellac was chipped, looked like crap, and I prefer an oil finish.
                              I may regret that one day, but not yet.

                              Anybody know what the infor on the tag means?
                              I assume:
                              Otto Frei was the rifle owner and he was from Will, Switzerland, the rest????
                              Born in 1939 and his unit was the Schwere Haubitze Stabsbatterie 76.

                              Shellac is easy to restore, remove the old layer with steelwool and alcohol and apply new shellac. The word shellac says it all, it's a protective shell, the complete recipe can be found here;
                              From the Landesmuseum in Zürich. For walnut, clean the stock first; 30 % Turpentine30 % Linseed oil30 % Fruit (wine) vinegar10 % Bees wax Fill the m
                              Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets.
                              No surrender. Fight to the death.

                              Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40

                              Swissrifles.com forum;
                              http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/

                              Email: guisan-info@bluewin.ch

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