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  • #31
    mls343
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 1543

    Silly comment, but did you call Dupage? They may be able to make it right with you (Note: I have not dealt with Dupage before.).
    Next to me in the blackness lay my oiled blue steel beauty. The greatest Christmas gift I had ever received, or would ever receive. Gradually, I drifted off to sleep, pringing ducks on the wing and getting off spectacular hip shots.
    - Ralphie from "A Christmas Story"

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    • #32
      0321jarhead
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 2116

      Originally posted by Rock6.3

      What part of the world are you located in?
      He might just be either shy or embarrassed to tell anyone. But that's okay, we are all here to help thoughs in need.
      "TRUST BUT, VERIFY"
      Ronald Reagan

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      • #33
        Kablemodem
        Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 252

        I think he is California.



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        • #34
          Baboosh
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2008
          • 6769

          Originally posted by Garandimal
          Did you bother to mic. the op-rod piston?

          Also, you didn't mention how the "no-go" cylinder gauge performed.




          GR
          No I need to pick up calipers to test.

          Cylinder gauge says it's good.






          Originally posted by mls343
          Silly comment, but did you call Dupage? They may be able to make it right with you (Note: I have not dealt with Dupage before.).
          I was hoping to fix it myself if it's simple enough. Gives me something to tinker with.






          Originally posted by 0321jarhead
          He might just be either shy or embarrassed to tell anyone. But that's okay, we are all here to help thoughs in need.
          I'm in Socal, it says it next to my name that I'm in the 909
          Just a normal guy

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          • #35
            0321jarhead
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 2116

            For those of us that are trying to help others, not everyone has time on there hands to memorize all of California's area codes. Thank you BABOOSH!
            "TRUST BUT, VERIFY"
            Ronald Reagan

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            • #36
              Pete1979
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 670

              Excuse me if this has been answered already but is the rifle not cycling at all or is it short cycling?

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              • #37
                Baboosh
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2008
                • 6769

                Sorry thought everyone in Socal knew of the dreaded 909
                Just a normal guy

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                • #38
                  Baboosh
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6769

                  Originally posted by Pete1979
                  Excuse me if this has been answered already but is the rifle not cycling at all or is it short cycling?
                  Bolt gets hung up and doesn't push the new round forward. Slight tap and it slides forward.
                  Just a normal guy

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                  • #39
                    pro-nra
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2270

                    Originally posted by Baboosh
                    Sorry thought everyone in Socal knew of the dreaded 909
                    That might be true but most everyone don't live in SoCal.

                    I'm sure you have a timing issues. If you were living up here NorCal we will get you running in 5 minutes.

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                    • #40
                      Baboosh
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 6769

                      Originally posted by pro-nra
                      That might be true but most everyone don't live in SoCal.

                      I'm sure you have a timing issues. If you were living up here NorCal we will get you running in 5 minutes.
                      Man I take back every bad thing I ever said about your norcal people

                      A buddy is going to meet me Sunday at the range and we're going to start swapping parts.
                      Just a normal guy

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                      • #41
                        Cactus_Tim
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 1359

                        Originally posted by Baboosh
                        Bolt gets hung up and doesn't push the new round forward. Slight tap and it slides forward.
                        Sounds like the op rod is binding somewhere.
                        Mine binds a bit in the last half inch of travel in the groove on the side of the receiver.
                        I don't have a spare op rod to test, so I just grease it and keep shooting.
                        Hoping it will loosen up in time and it has, a little.
                        I still have to tap it forward for the first round to chamber.
                        Guess no Garand thumb for me.

                        Check out this video from 1:30-1:38 & 1:50-2:00, he slaps the op rod forward.
                        That's what I do to mine when I load it.

                        Last edited by Cactus_Tim; 07-05-2013, 11:26 PM.

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                        • #42
                          Pete1979
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 670

                          OP, if you have access to a sight smoker (carbide lamp) or an acetylene torch, smoke the op rod, don't heat it but let the smoke coat it with soot. Carefully reassemble the rifle and rack the bolt all the way through its cycle a few times. When you take it apart again, the soot will have left a mark on the inside of the stock wherever it is binding.

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                          • #43
                            pro-nra
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 2270

                            Originally posted by Cactus_Tim
                            Sounds like the op rod is binding somewhere.
                            Mine binds a bit in the last half inch of travel in the groove on the side of the receiver.
                            I don't have a spare op rod to test, so I just grease it and keep shooting.
                            Hoping it will loosen up in time and it has, a little.
                            I still have to tap it forward for the first round to chamber.
                            Guess no Garand thumb for me.

                            Check out this video from 1:30-1:38 & 1:50-2:00, he slaps the op rod forward.
                            That's what I do to mine when I load it.

                            I believe the OP's issue is FTF on the first 3-4 rounds off the clip.

                            Most Garands you will lightly tap the OR to persuade it forward into battery so that is normal. I say most as all the ones I shoot needs a little persuasion/nudge.

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                            • #44
                              Pete1979
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 670

                              My H&R takes a little nudge to get the bolt moving, Dad's Springfield does not. I treat them both as though they are living creatures ready to bite my thumb off...

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                              • #45
                                Baboosh
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 6769

                                That little nudge is what I need to do after firing the first 4 rounds.

                                Fire
                                Bolt goes back
                                Round ejects
                                Bolt goes to slide forward to chamber new round
                                Bolt stops

                                Little nudge like when you first put the clip in and now round is chambered.
                                Just a normal guy

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