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  • #46
    Grendl
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 1657

    I remember reading a quote by Eisenhower which underscored the high value he put on Free French forces, but for the life of me I can't find it. It was something like, "I'd rather have one Free French Battalion than an American Division." Or "One French battalion is worth ..." Anyway, it was positive.

    Oh, back on topic. I have one that's Cali legal. Had to talk them them through removing the FH & ranging ring. Simple really. Worth it. Great handling rifle. I was thinking of welding a washer to the front of the FH to make it back into a brake. I think it will fly if the exit diameter is closer to the original configuration.

    BTW, if the 1% rule is the true legal standard of a FH, then most brakes would probably test illegal.

    Originally posted by glennsche
    the thing about the anti french jokes is they're just such a tired nonfactual cliche at this point, and so unfair.

    anti french sentiment reached its fever pitch when the french wouldn't follow us into Iraq a second time (after contributing an armored division first time around) and this rekindled all this anti french sentiment which started with the US frustration with Degaulle and continued on throughout the cold war because the French wouldn't fall in line with the rest of Western Europe with Washington's demands.

    Being frustrated with post war french foreign policy with the US is one thing, but perverting French military history to serve a contemporary political agenda is just flat out wrong.

    The French literally bled to death in ww1 rather than surrender.
    The French didn't "surrender" in 1940, they had their asses kicked by a foe which had better tactics. They got beat, they weren't cowards. Indeed, the Dutch, Norwegians, Danish, Yugoslavs and every other country that faced the Wehrmacht in 1940 got beat too, including the Brits; they just were lucky enough to not have a land bridge connecting them to the continent, or 3000 miles and 4million soldiers to learn from their own mistakes like the Soviets did.

    The French in Algeria were on a fools errand, same as in Vietnam, same as WE were in Vietnam: trying to solve a political problem with the military.

    So yeah, friends and fellow shooters, STFU with tired french cliches it just makes you look like you haven't read enough history.

    read these books:
    alistair horne's "The Price of Glory: Verdun 1916"
    alistair horne's "to lose a battle, france 1940"
    alistair hornes "a savage war of peace" about the algerian war
    and "the last valley: dien bien phu and the french defeat in vietnam"

    and then, well, if after reading those books you still think an old and busted cliche is funny, well, read em again.
    Last edited by Grendl; 02-25-2013, 5:51 PM.
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    • #47
      Agustav
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 1172

      Originally posted by Zedrek
      Do you need a hug? I didn't learn a damn thing in my public high school history class but I do have a keen interest in the Vietnam "Conflict" and own over 100 books on the subject. I am well aware of their sacrifices. I was merely making a joke in reference to the commonly held sayings of today's society much as one would say in reference to Polish idiots and Irish alcoholics.
      So, you are simply a bigot and not a ignorant bigot. Thank you for the clarification!

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      • #48
        Zedrek
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 1812

        Originally posted by Agustav
        So, you are simply a bigot and not a ignorant bigot. Thank you for the clarification!
        Yes, I hate all equally.
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        • #49
          harmoniums
          Veteran Member
          • May 2008
          • 3488

          Originally posted by Zedrek
          Yes, I hate all equally.
          Having been born in Ireland, I suppose I should hate you for saying the Irish are alcoholics, but unfortunately, I do like to drink.
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          • #50
            Mustang
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2007
            • 5055

            What this thread really needs...

            ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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            • #51
              glennsche
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 1831

              Originally posted by Mustang
              What this thread really needs...

              that's a good one!

              this one is my chosen butthurt meme pic o' choice.

              "If the American Left wanted to decrease interest in shooting, they should have the government make it mandatory like they do here in Switzerland. Nothing makes you not want to do something like when the government makes you do it."

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              • #52
                Mustang
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2007
                • 5055

                Originally posted by glennsche
                that's a good one!

                this one is my chosen butthurt meme pic o' choice.

                ROFL...
                ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                • #53
                  Zedrek
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1812

                  Originally posted by harmoniums
                  Having been born in Ireland, I suppose I should hate you for saying the Irish are alcoholics, but unfortunately, I do like to drink.
                  Hehe, my grandparents came over from Ireland and my other grandpa was American Indian yet I can't hold my liquor.I guess that throws that stereotype out the window.
                  sigpic10mm collector

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                  • #54
                    mj1
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 3318

                    LOL

                    Originally posted by Zedrek
                    Do you need a hug? I didn't learn a damn thing in my public high school history class but I do have a keen interest in the Vietnam "Conflict" and own over 100 books on the subject. I am well aware of their sacrifices. I was merely making a joke in reference to the commonly held sayings of today's society much as one would say in reference to Polish idiots and Irish alcoholics.
                    100 books and you didn't learn a thing,,LOL.

                    Then you keep writing spoo about things you don't know zip about. So failed.
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                    • #55
                      Tmckinney
                      Member
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 311

                      Back on topic. . . .

                      I know that an incomplete rifle can still be C&R, although not a bare receiver, so why would removing the grenade launcher make this rifle not qualify. It's one thing to restock and chop a barrel, but why does a missing grenade launcher make it not eligible?

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                      • #56
                        Mustang
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 5055

                        The ATF has decided that only limited modifications to a curio or relic firearm is allowed without that weapon losing its C&R status. With few exceptions, however, ATF has always been kind of vague on what specific modifications are and are not allowed.

                        Unless someone has an opinion letter from the ATF regarding a grenade launcherless MAS 49/56 no longer being a C&R, then you will be operating in a gray area if you have it shipped to you as a C&R.

                        That being said, do you want to be a test case for this issue?

                        If it isn't a C&R any longer, have it sent through a regular 01FFL...
                        ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                        • #57
                          Darto
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 6498

                          You guys wouldn't be talkin' so brave if I was still alive !


                          Last edited by Darto; 03-21-2013, 9:49 PM.

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                          • #58
                            Emdawg
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 4292

                            Originally posted by Darto
                            You guys wouldn't be talkin' so brave if I was still alive !



                            Ahhh, but everyone falls to General Winter.

                            *sniff* *sniff* Commies...

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