CA Legal mas49/56

[glennsche]

hi everyone,

so i've gotten strangely obsessed with this rifle. the majority of the ones i see on GB still have the grenade launcher on the barrel and as such as i understand are illegal under CA law.

i've only gotten to play with one of these once back when Harmoniums had one with an original french scope, but its subsequently been sold to fuel his obsession with douchey pistols.

post pics of the ones you got! and what do you think I oughta pay for one? and anyone sellin one in a month or so?

i'll be back from Zurich in just over a month, mouth is watering at the thought of reapplying for the C&R and getting back on the rifle collecting bandwagon.

we had a "french day" at the range at one point, the one on the far right is the only one i've ever known.

[Zedrek]

French Day at the firing range? Sounds like there wouldn't be much firing, just a lot of surrendering. Hehe, Sorry, couldn't help it.

[harmoniums]

French Day at the firing range? Sounds like there wouldn't be much firing, just a lot of surrendering. Hehe, Sorry, couldn't help it.

we smoked four cigarettes for every round expended.

[mj1]

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French Day at the firing range? Sounds like there wouldn't be much firing, just a lot of surrendering. Hehe, Sorry, couldn't help it.

Is that supposed to be funny? You must be from the failed public school system that no longer teaches real history and never heard of the An Khe pass then. I stood there in 1967 reading the head stones of a whole French battalion that died almost to the last man rather than give up. How about the 250,000 who marched to the Somme and never returned. Not so funny. I don't have a lot going for the French today but show some respect even if you don't know why.

[ditchdrift]

Jeez, you need to chill out. Never heard of the french guns for sale? Never fired, dropped once?

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[C&Rtrader]

Enough of the anti french stuff.... i am more curious about how to get one of those awesome rifles into california

[WnP]

I believe you have to remove the entire grenade launcher system. The majority of people in other states won't do that.

[Mustang]

I've wondered how accurate those MAS 49's and 49/56's are.

The MAS 44 and MAS 49 are very similar but without the launcher.

[smle-man]

You must remove the GL range ring and the flash hider. Accuracy on mine is ten ring @ 100 yds. A very handy rifle with a cartridge equivilant to the 7.62MM NATO in power.

[glennsche]

the thing about the anti french jokes is they're just such a tired unfactual cliche at this point, and so unfair.

anti french sentiment reached its fever pitch when the french wouldnt follow us into iraq a second time (after contributing an armored division first time around) and this rekindled all this anti french sentiment which started with the US frustration with Degaulle and continued on throughout the cold war because the French wouldnt fall in line with the rest of Western Europe with washington's demands.

Being frustrated with post war french foreign policy with the US is one thing, but perverting French military history to serve a contemporary political agenda is just flat out wrong.

The French literally bled to death in ww1 rather than surrender.
The French didnt "surrender" in 1940, they had their asses kicked by a foe which had better tactics. They got beat, they werent cowards. Indeed, the Dutch, Norwegians, Danish, Yugoslavs and every other country that faced the Wehrmacht in 1940 got beat too, including the Brits; they just were lucky enough to not have a land bridge connecting them to the continent, or 3000 miles and 4million soldiers to learn from their own mistakes like the Soviets did.

The French in Algeria were on a fools errand, same as in Vietnam, same as WE were in Vietnam: trying to solve a political problem with the military.

So yeah, friends and fellow shooters, STFU with tired french cliches it just makes you look like you havent read enough history.

read these books:
alistair horne's "The Price of Glory: Verdun 1916"
alistair horne's "to lose a battle, france 1940"
alistair hornes "a savage war of peace" about the algerian war
and "the last valley: dien bien phu and the french defeat in vietnam"

and then, well, if after reading those books you still think an old and busted cliche is funny, well, read em again.

[glennsche]

You must remove the GL range ring and the flash hider. Accuracy on mine is ten ring @ 100 yds. A very handy rifle with a cartridge equivilant to the 7.62MM NATO in power.

is this possible at home or do you need a gunsmith to do it?
and i assume it would technically have to be done before crossing state lines? (ie, buying one and having it delivered to a C&R addy and then doing the necessary circumscion once it was here would be verboten)

[C&Rtrader]

is this possible at home or do you need a gunsmith to do it?
and i assume it would technically have to be done before crossing state lines? (ie, buying one and having it delivered to a C&R addy and then doing the necessary circumscion once it was here would be verboten)

It must be done out of state. The gl is a destructive device so mere possession is a no no. Throw it away before you come home. I have removed gls from yugo sks before. One took heat from a blowtorch and a little torque. Maybe 5 min total. The other was a royal pain and had to be cut with a dremel.

[mj1]

LOL

Jeez, you need to chill out. Never heard of the french guns for sale? Never fired, dropped once?

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Do you quote every baseless thing you hear or fact less thing you read?

Good luck with that.

[smle-man]

is this possible at home or do you need a gunsmith to do it?
and i assume it would technically have to be done before crossing state lines? (ie, buying one and having it delivered to a C&R addy and then doing the necessary circumscion once it was here would be verboten)

The flash hider/grenade launcher combo has a washer that is punched up into a cutout in the FH body to hold it in place. Use a screw driver to pry down the retaining piece so the washer is flat, put a nail through one FH hole and out the corresponding side and use it has a handle to turn off th FH and retaining nut. Then slide off the range ring. The rifles shoot better without the range ring anyway, it does funny things to the barrel harmonics.

[joefrank64k]

FWIW...Another thing to consider, according to Dennis at Empire Arms, once you remove the grenade launcher it nullifies the C&R status of the rifle.

At least that's what he told me when he had one come up for sale that was mfg. in 1970 and I asked him if he could just remove the grenade launcher before shipping it to me. It was a no-go for him. Too bad, the one he had was super clean and had all the cool accessories. Rats!!!

I want one of these in a bad way, too glensche!