SKS PPT

[FUBAR]

So, I go to Turners to PPT a Chinese Paratrooper SKS and get denied. Now the SKS has been modified with the following parts:

Tapco Intrafuse Collapsible Stock w/Pistol Grip
Tapco Forend
Murray's hammer
Murray's sear
Murray's firing pin

The guy at Turners says the SKS is considered an assault weapon because of the collapsible stock, pistol grip, and detachable magazine. The SKS has the original 10 round fixed magazine not detachable. The Turners guy says, it's detachable because you can release the magazine to allow the rounds to come out. I tell him thats no different than a fixed magazine from a bolt action gun. Turners guy says the SKS would need a bullet button in order to complete the transaction. I then say maybe you're confused with the 922r compliance and that it is in compliance with parts replaced with USA made parts (Tapco stock, Tapco forend, hammer, sear). He then states I am violating federal law punishable by a $50,000 fine and 5 years in prison. I say. "WOW, I am done with you and leave." I make arrangements with the other party to PPT another time and place. Am I missing something here?

[Quiet]

Most of the sales staff at Turner's do not know what they are talking about and they all consider themselves firearms experts.

[paul0660]

Ohgod. What does this mean:

So, I go to Turners to PPT a Chinese Paratrooper SKS and get denied.

They wouldn't do the PPT? The seller was there and they did not call the cops?

It was not a PPT? You failed the backround?

[FUBAR]

Ohgod. What does this mean:

They wouldn't do the PPT? The seller was there and they did not call the cops?

It was not a PPT? You failed the backround?

Did you just read the first line and not the whole post?

[Bobby Ricigliano]

I don't know what's worse, the fudpeddling Turners clerk (He's dead wrong obviously)

Or

The Bubba'ing of a collectable and somewhat rare paratrooper.

Sorry OP I couldn't resist.

[FUBAR]

I don't know what's worse, the fudpeddling Turners clerk (He's dead wrong obviously)

Or

The Bubba'ing of a collectable and somewhat rare paratrooper.

Sorry OP I couldn't resist.

I totally understand. The SKS still has the original stock. But sometimes they like to dress up as sluts.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

I totally understand. The SKS still has the original stock. But sometimes they like to dress up as sluts.

Indeed my friend.

[Chaos47]

So, I go to Turners to PPT a Chinese Paratrooper SKS and get denied. Now the SKS has been modified with the following parts:

Tapco Intrafuse Collapsible Stock w/Pistol Grip
Tapco Forend
Murray's hammer
Murray's sear
Murray's firing pin

The guy at Turners says the SKS is considered an assault weapon because of the collapsible stock, pistol grip, and detachable magazine. The SKS has the original 10 round fixed magazine not detachable. The Turners guy says, it's detachable because you can release the magazine to allow the rounds to come out. I tell him thats no different than a fixed magazine from a bolt action gun. Turners guy says the SKS would need a bullet button in order to complete the transaction. I then say maybe you're confused with the 922r compliance and that it is in compliance with parts replaced with USA made parts (Tapco stock, Tapco forend, hammer, sear). He then states I am violating federal law punishable by a $50,000 fine and 5 years in prison. I say. "WOW, I am done with you and leave." I make arrangements with the other party to PPT another time and place. Am I missing something here?

Many people are under the miss assumption that SKS are legal under the featureless path. I guess its the stock that confuses them?

SKS are legal under the fixed magazine portion of the law. Fixed magazine rifles can have any and all features.

Magazine locks (Bullet buttons) are not law. They are a way to make rifles that generally come with detachable magazines have fixed magazines.

The SKS magazine is already fixed so it does not need a magazine lock.

12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.
(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

With the stock collapsed is the OAL over 30"? I would assume it is

So when he said "federal law punishable by a $50,000 fine and 5 years in prison" was he talking about magazine locks or 922r?
I really hope he doesn't think fixed magazines are Federal law...

[Rickrock1]

Now I am confused a friend of a frind has an Romania SKS with a Tapco pistol grip collapsible stock and the original 10 rd fid box mag. Whats the scoop on that ?

Fubar thats one of the reasons I dont like Turners, Central pawn and Gold in Ontario are good people to ffl transfers.

[FUBAR]

That's what I asked him. His answer was the SKS has a detachable magazine. But when you release the magazine, it's still attached on a hinge. I asked him if he meant 922r compliance and he had a blank look and went back to the whole it's a assault weapon because of the evil features.

[FUBAR]

Thanks Rick. What's funny is, I asked another employee about the SKS and he said as long as its over 30 inches it was good to go. But then, he wasn't the manager. The guy that first saw the SKS was the manager. Man, where do they find these guys.

[Chaos47]

Now I am confused a friend of a frind has an Romania SKS with a Tapco pistol grip collapsible stock and the original 10 rd fid box mag. Whats the scoop on that ?

Fubar thats one of the reasons I dont like Turners, Central pawn and Gold in Ontario are good people to ffl transfers.

Reread my first post, right above yours.
SKS with a fixed magazine can have any and all features.

That's what I asked him. His answer was the SKS has a detachable magazine. But when you release the magazine, it's still attached on a hinge. I asked him if he meant 922r compliance and he had a blank look and went back to the whole it's a assault weapon because of the evil features.

It's a fixed magazine.

An SKS with a detachable magazine in CA is "banned by name" and illegal anyways.

12276. As used in this chapter, "assault weapon" shall mean the following designated semiautomatic firearms:
(a) All of the following specified rifles:
[...]
(11) SKS with detachable magazine.

Sounds like the guy had no clue and does not understand state or federal law.

[Quiet]

Sounds like the guy had no clue and does not understand state or federal law.

See post #2 in this thread.

[Rickrock1]

Fubar when you find out let me know and I will do the same. Those dar turner guys are from turnersville

thanks

[BroncoBob]

So you're the one that got that paratrooper. Nice pick up for sure