Colt 1911 A1 from Sarco 1930

[toneman]

http://e-sarcoinc.com/colt1911a11930original-bestgrade-1-1.aspx

What do you think ?
Is it any good ?

I heard Sarco does not ship some handguns to C&R Holders in our state....
Is there any idea I maybe buy this 1911 ?
I currently own few newer 1911's but I always want to own an old 1911 made by Colt
with price tag I can afford.
Maybe find middle man to ship it to me or FFL01, as I would do with rifles after BB or SSE conversion???

[GOEX FFF]

http://e-sarcoinc.com/colt1911a11930...grade-1-1.aspx

What do you think ?
Is it any good ?

I heard Sarco does not ship some handguns to C&R Holders in our state....
Is there any idea I maybe buy this 1911 ?
Maybe find middle man to ship it to me just like BB or SSE conversion???

Good luck with that from Sarco. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=497511 Like Numrich, they will not ship ANY firearms to CA. I've just tried having a 90+ year old C&R long gun shipped from Numrich to an FFL out of state, they flat out told me that it doesn't matter, if you're a buyer from CA they will cancel the transaction regardless if you use an FFL out of state. IDK, maybe Sarco will do it that way. But also keep in mind that since it's a handgun (doesn't matter if it's a C&R) it will still have to go through an FFL01 here. Handguns can't be shipped directly to an 03.

Also, C&R handguns are exempt from the roster, so there is no need to SSE.

[CEDaytonaRydr]

I wouldn't buy anything from Sarco. They are a bunch of jerks...

[David13]

I think the other issue is, if you are interested in a 1911, why not just get any new 1911 produced today?
Colt, costs more, or RIA, or anything in between. They are all in essence new makes of the same old guns.
What would be special about Sarco or whoever made the gun?
dc

[morrcarr67]

Very cool. If I didn't already have an Argentine 1927 frame I'm gonna use for a project I would be all over this.

[Semper Fidelis]

They told me the same thing. It is frustrating because the man that I spoke to said, in the same sentence, that all of their 1911's are Curio and Relics but are not on the list of California approved handguns, therefore they cannot be sold to us. I am not sure if the guy honestly just didn't know about the C&R exemption or if he was just shooting me a load of bull****. Whatever their reasons, it seems like they are missing out on a lot of business.

[morrcarr67]

That's one of the reason I have two c&r ffl's. I can buy this and not worry about it.

[weekend_plinker]

So do you have to have to have a c&r license to get one of these shipped in to California. I have a friend who is an ffl in Arizona and thought a bought having him order one of these for me. That is if I can get one shipped to me with out a c&r license.

[toneman]

I think the other issue is, if you are interested in a 1911, why not just get any new 1911 produced today?
Colt, costs more, or RIA, or anything in between. They are all in essence new makes of the same old guns.
What would be special about Sarco or whoever made the gun?
dc

A good advise but I already own few 1911 I didn't mention when I started the tread my bad Sorry !!!

Very cool. If I didn't already have an Argentine 1927 frame I'm gonna use for a project I would be all over this.

+1

That's one of the reason I have two c&r ffl's. I can buy this and not worry about it.

I wish I have a relative or someone I can trust in other state....

They told me the same thing. It is frustrating because the man that I spoke to said, in the same sentence, that all of their 1911's are Curio and Relics but are not on the list of California approved handguns, therefore they cannot be sold to us. I am not sure if the guy honestly just didn't know about the C&R exemption or if he was just shooting me a load of bull****. Whatever their reasons, it seems like they are missing out on a lot of business.

I thinking the same way.

[microwaveguy]

So do you have to have to have a c&r license to get one of these shipped in to California. I have a friend who is an ffl in Arizona and thought a bought having him order one of these for me. That is if I can get one shipped to me with out a c&r license.

You'll need to have him ship it to your local FFL01 for transfer to you.
Seems at this point to be more pain than it is worth even tho I would like to get one.

[morrcarr67]

So do you have to have to have a c&r license to get one of these shipped in to California. I have a friend who is an ffl in Arizona and thought a bought having him order one of these for me. That is if I can get one shipped to me with out a c&r license.

You don't need a c&r to have it shipped to ca. Thing is that Sarco won't ship anything to ca.

If you have a friend in az with an 01 ffl he could order it from them and then ship it to your favorite lgs in ca for transfer.

[CEDaytonaRydr]

They told me the same thing. It is frustrating because the man that I spoke to said, in the same sentence, that all of their 1911's are Curio and Relics but are not on the list of California approved handguns, therefore they cannot be sold to us. I am not sure if the guy honestly just didn't know about the C&R exemption or if he was just shooting me a load of bull****. Whatever their reasons, it seems like they are missing out on a lot of business.

The guy I talked to told me that they weren't shipping C&R rifles because Californians "elect bad leaders". (word for word what he told me!!!)

So, it's a decision based on prejudice and ignorance. As a result, I hope they go bankrupt...

[v/dBrink]

Note that 1911A1 are not "commercial" guns and C-prefix are not 1911A1 guns. They are C-prefix commercial Colt Gov't Models.

This is the 1933 Colt commercial police contract and we don’t know that any of these have ever come to the U.S. before.

This batch of pistols Sarco is now offering is not the first of these from Argentina. You'll notice mine is s/n in the same batch and is also a C-prefix Colt Gov't Policia Federal.

Mine came from J.L.Denter (JLD) in Connecticut about 14 years ago. They were severely refinished because they were uniformly surface pitted. You'll notice there are no markings at all on the left side of the slide. I paid $325 at the time.

Where Sarco says "worn markings" this really means Pedro and his belt sander did the refinishing.

Pachmayr flat rubber mainspring housing, ancient Bianchi wrap around grips, drop-in "match" bushing, Nowlin reduced sear spring, Nowlin reduced mainspring, new 21 lb. recoil spring, nylon shock buffer, long adjustable trigger, 8 rd magazines. This old boy ROCKS at the range and will put 6 rds into ONE big hole at 15 yds with the original barrel (not pitted). Function is 100% and this was my CCW when I lived in a free state some time back. I never felt under-gunned with this and 2 spare mags. At $325 it was worth it to me for a genuine Colt carry gun. At $500.... not so much.

What's so good about old Colt's? Forged frame and slide. (frame & slide are matching #)

Investment cast sucks.






Every bit as good as a genuine Colt if given the same treatment as the one above. Not sure if this one came from JLD or SOG in Ohio... Pretty sure it was $175 at the time circa 1998.



Colt 1911A1 mfg 1944.

[Semper Fidelis]

I would not mind owning a Colt Sistema .45 or the "true" Colt, but I am just having a hard time trying to find one. And if the price is too high, I will probably end up buying new, I just like guns with a history. I emailed Sarco Inc. regarding the issue and to see why in writing from the company they do not deal with California. I also asked if they support military members who are stationed in states that do not agree with their political agenda, even though we don't have the choice. I may end up just doing the multi-state transfer. Either way I am stuck waiting until I get home anyways. I just like the idea of coming home and having my guns waiting for me, assuming the waiting period and background check can be done while I am here. A fun day of shooting with the family and an attractive woman or two sounds like a great way to start post-deployment leave, amongst other things.

[morrcarr67]

At $325 it was worth it to me for a genuine Colt carry gun. At $500.... not so much.

You paid that in 1998. In 2013 that would be like $494.50. Looks like you spent about the same as someone would be spending now it they were to buy this one.