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Guisan.
Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets.
No surrender. Fight to the death.
Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40
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Those are great pictures! Thanks for sharingsigpicCertainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else thereafter.
Ernest Hemingway, "On the Blue Water," Esquire, April 1936
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I need to get me a Fedora to wear while shooting the Mil Sil match
Rob Thomas - Match Director NCPPRC Tactical Long Range Match
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Rob, if you do, I will as well!sigpicCertainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else thereafter.
Ernest Hemingway, "On the Blue Water," Esquire, April 1936
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And that, folks, is why even Axis Powers didn't dare invade Switzerland. Not even the Soviets were ready to take on that country chock-full of sharpshooters. I like that the women shoot, too, and that's still true to this day.
Other versions of the below YouTube video, which speaks exactly to this point, have the very last word "edited out". Here's the unedited version.
"San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
http://www.sanfranciscoliberalwithagun.com (reloading info w/ videos)
http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast)
http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel)
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To be a true Liberal, you must be 100% pro-Second Amendment. Anything less is inconsistent with liberalism.Comment
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Well, looks like I am wearing the Fedora to the range this weekSoli Deo Gloria.Comment
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If one of these cool old pic threads could get by without this pile of crap I would love it.And that, folks, is why even Axis Powers didn't dare invade Switzerland.
The krauts could have used 5 year old airpower and bombed the Swiss civilian population to death. Would they have? No doubt, if they wished.
The Swiss military's plan for invasion by other powers was to leave for the hills and let the civilian population get looted and reorganized.
A few thousand folks, no matter how well dressed, would not have stopped any invasion with 7.5 bolts.
Switzerland didn't get invaded because they were brokering everyone else's money. No one wanted a howitzer in the file cabinet.*REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*Comment
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There's more to it than that. The "National Redoubt" defense plan was sound, the Swiss could not possibly hold the German mechanized forces in the low lands. By falling back into the highlands, they ensured Germany's air and armored power were neutralized. Also, prior to the fall of France, the Swiss had entered into an agreement with the allies. Its true that the Swiss "played both sides", but they did so with the knowledge and consent of "the good guys" The Swiss also served as the homebase for the OSS (early CIA). They saved hundreds of thousands of Jewish refugees when other countries, the US included, failed to act on the behalf of the Jews. Do a bit more reading, learn both sides of your theory, you may come to realize your beliefs are not the ONLY answer.sigpicCertainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else thereafter.
Ernest Hemingway, "On the Blue Water," Esquire, April 1936
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" If you're going to take Europe you better feed the pig or take it with you."
PIG= Switzerland.
But Paul there is a much more Complex reason why the Germans didn't invade CH and you better believe those K31 bolts along with the terrain and Switzerland's awesome defense network had something to do with it
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No vetterli's? Peabody's (Real Service rifles?)Comment
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Great pictures! I was at the rifle range today here in SoCal and most of the guys were shooting AR15's of one kind or another, and they were mostly using the bench. The women were dressed to impress as well, but their sense of style is a little different. Most of the guys were casually dressed as well. Of course everyone was wearing hearing and eye protection. Thank you for sharing."All bad precedents began as justifiable measures." Julius CaesarComment
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The Wehrmacht didnt invade switzerland because they had other priorities. Simple as that. If they'd wrapped up Russia and England they would've eventually gotten around to it.
Fetishizing Swiss marksmanship and their great rifles doesnt change this.
The Germans have always looked down their noses at the Swiss as being a sparcely populated rural backwater with a laughable dialect, kind of like how parts of the US look down at the South or West Virginia or whatever. I would not bet money that the Germans who had just defeated the french army in 6 weeks, conquered from norway to greece and everywhere in between was seriously intimidated by some militias with k31s.Last edited by glennsche; 10-22-2012, 10:24 AM."If the American Left wanted to decrease interest in shooting, they should have the government make it mandatory like they do here in Switzerland. Nothing makes you not want to do something like when the government makes you do it."
"I'm over you." -Citadelgrad87
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And here's shooting in Switzerland in the New Days!
The last two years, girls have won the traditional Kanton Zurich shooting event.
Here's this years:
here's last years:
"If the American Left wanted to decrease interest in shooting, they should have the government make it mandatory like they do here in Switzerland. Nothing makes you not want to do something like when the government makes you do it."
"I'm over you." -Citadelgrad87
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As shown by the intell gleaned from the SS and German Army after the war, there were something like 13 plans to invade Switzerland even up to 1945. Those same intell reports suggested that although they would most certainly succeed, the costs would be prohibitive. They examined how the Finns mauled the Soviets and kept putting it off.
Glenn, you are correct that their failure to defeat the Russians was a factor. Of course that was the main reason they lost the whole shebang as well!!sigpicCertainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else thereafter.
Ernest Hemingway, "On the Blue Water," Esquire, April 1936
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It was a bit more complex than that. I had the pleasure of living their and working with some of their defense planners. They were under no illusions as to their ability to defend against a sustained assault by a vastly greater force, but they, like the Finns, intended to make it a very costly assault with no pacification prospects.
I also had the pleasure of seeing their current readiness (well, as of 30 years ago), and shot against these citizen-soldiers. They still dress well for rifle practice (including the occasional fedora).
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