M1 Garand Tanker problem Help!!!

[ICONIC]

I did a trade for an M1 Garand tanker without doing my research and now it is biting me in the @$$. I thought it was a tanker build on a Winchester reciever, but upon further inspection it is a reweld. Worse I am afraid that it may be a Reweld using two seperate recievers. Any ideas what my options are or what I should do????

[gunboat]

It does appear to be a reweld -- It is also almost sure to be more than one receiver. -- Many years ago I was involved in a group "rebuild". We literally had a barrel full of cut units and only got about 10 usable receivers out of the lot.
A reweld in itself is not bad but you should have been informed as to its history. But then, a "tanker" in itself is bogus.
I would go back to the trader for non-disclosure of this -- It certainly lowers the value.
my tuppence

[TRICKSTER]

Yep, looks like a SA front end. If done properly it should be ok. Does it function ok? Otherwise order a receiver from CMP and transfer the parts to it.

[ICONIC]

It seems to function well, everything seems to lock up. I read (on the internet) that if it is a Springfield Winchester Reweld there are a lot of safety issues. My main concern is that divit in the second picture. I bought it as a shooter. I don't have that much invested in it, but I rather have safe shooting firearm rather than a wall hanger.

[gotshotgun?]

ew thats uggers... I'd opt for a Shuffs Mini-G if you can do over.

[TRICKSTER]

Didn't really look that close the first time, but is that a crack showing in the 2nd photo? I would try and get the trade reversed and if you can't do that and want to salvage the rifle, go the new receiver route. If you don't want to do that, you can part it out and recover some of the cost.

[ICONIC]

Didn't really look that close the first time, but is that a crack showing in the 2nd photo? I would try and get the trade reversed and if you can't do that and want to salvage the rifle, go the new receiver route. If you don't want to do that, you can part it out and recover some of the cost.

Its a ripple from the weld, but I am thinking I am going to have to go the new reciever route.

[tdyoung1958]

Play it safe, do the new reciever . . .

Unless your interested in selling / trading it as is . . .

[gunboat]

It appears a bit sloppy but not unsafe -- receivers are not all dimensionally the same -- there can be 5-20 thou differences depending on location and whether it is a functional area or not.
The lumps appear to be a result of slight misalingnment and lack of due diligence in finish machining and/or grinding.
I think what looks like a crack is actually a lump not ground flush.
I strongly agree ther was possible deception on the traders part.

[pro-nra]

If you must shoot that "Tanker Garand" then I would get a USGI receiver from the CMP.

[EricClay]

I believe that the CMP is still selling receivers. I think they're grade B, but will be in much better shape then the welded one.

Eric

[gunboat]

I take the opposite view --
You say it functions ok and you only wanted a shooter, so why throw good money after bad.
The poor thing will never be a top dollar rifle even with a new receiver --
my tuppence

[me109g4]

Being a Winchester rear and a SA front does not bode well for the integrity of the receiver, in the first pic the "diamond" stamped into the receiver indicates it is made from 8620 steel, the Winchester is most likey 3115 or 3120 steel, big differences in steel composition. I strongly urge you to take no further chances by shooting it, it may last forever and the next shot could be the one that makes it blow apart,, how lucky do you feel? The front half of your receiver seems to have been made before mid 1943, it can be narrowed forther by looking for similar heat lot numbers on original receivers .Your heat lot appears to be S7A. D28291 is the receiver drawing number, number 17th revision.

http://www.m1-garand-rifle.com/m1-garand-assembly/vintage.php

[ICONIC]

I am just going to get a reciever from the CMP, just need to finish my marksmanship requriement and then I can send in my paper. Maybe I will also get another Garand while I am at it. I feel an addiction forming.

[a308garand]

It was comon for folks to have receivers welded together in order to get an M1 Garand; this was around the late 1950s-early 1960s. That was really the only way to get into a "real" Garand at the time.

In today's terms, there is really no reason to continue to use a welded receiver. Mix up of the metals between the front & rear halfs, misalligned receiver geometry or weak welds, all can spell trouble... remember these receivers were being made a long time ago and who knows what really happened to cause it to be cut up.

The idea to obtain a receiver from the CMP is the best thing going. All your parts will turn right on and you get the peace of mind knowing that it will not suddenly fail in a flash of bright light and very hot stuff being thrown around.