WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CMP DRIES UP

[CEDaytonaRydr]

Not for those who have one or many. Or did you forget what that war was all about?

Which war paul? ww2 or korea?

Yeah, you lost me there too, bro...

What are you trying to say?

[Cowboy T]

For collectors, I can sort of see why "get a Garand! get a Garand!" is such a big deal. Yes, it was our chief infantry battle instrument of WWII and Korea.

That said....

For those of us who intend to use the rifle on a regular basis, though, e. g. for hunting, I'd say a Mosin, Mauser, M1903 Spfld, or similar rifle is a better idea, primarily because they're bolt-action. There are several advantages to a bolt gun, primarily being that of keeping your brass, and the ability to use neck-sizing to preserve the brass's life and get smaller groups. If I were to buy an M1 Garand, it'd probably just stay a safe queen, and that just doesn't seem fair to the gun.

Take heart! That's one more M1 Garand on the market for you all to compete over.

[durandal]

the bigger question is what do we do when all the 30.06 dries up??

[Pete1979]

the bigger question is what do we do when all the 30.06 dries up??

I will pass on the best advise I was ever given. "150 or 168gr bullet over 47-48gr of IMR 4895 with a CCI #34 primer, best if used in a Lake City case".

[beerman]

Here's what happens:
The price goes up up up!

Anyone else remember 189.00 SKS's??? Heck, I think I have an OLD Shotgun News from the 80's where they were 99.00!! M1 Carbines were under 200 too I think....

As crazy as this sounds, Mosins may be selling for OVER $149.00 soon!

I bought several chinese mmilitary SKS from Turners in the early90s for $69 a pop....should have kept some. My Russian with Lam stock was $99...kept that one

[not-fishing]

I will pass on the best advise I was ever given. "150 or 168gr bullet over 47-48gr of IMR 4895 with a CCI #34 primer, best if used in a Lake City case".

Buy your CCI #34's in 5,000 quantities, 147 g or so bullets from GI brass by the 30 cal ammo cans and H4895 (meters better) in 8lb jugs 4 to a case.

I remember getting around 150 loads to the pound of powder when the boys and I were shooting heavy.

[Pete1979]

For bulk ammo, I've been using Prvi 150gr flat based from Wideners. They are really close to M2 ball (Almost identical), just as inconsistent as mil spec 147gr but they are non magnetic. Shoots better than HXP and easier on the bore.
If I'm trying to get the most out of mine, I find that it shoots the Hornady 168 HPBT just as well as the Sierra Match King.

[tpf68]

Latest from Orest, the CEO of the CMP is that with panic buying rates, the Greeks will be gone within 10-14 months if these rates keep up.

Missed that conversation . Happen to have a link?

[SKSer45]

I bought several chinese mmilitary SKS from Turners in the early90s for $69 a pop....should have kept some. My Russian with Lam stock was $99...kept that one

good boy Beerman!!! good boy

well I think the CMP Garands will be like the SKS now. SKS' are no longer being imported and haven't been for a while and people are just going ape **** over them. Its crazy to think that a little biddy carbine can hit 6 digits in price in the next few years if this trend keeps up.

[rojocorsa]

For collectors, I can sort of see why "get a Garand! get a Garand!" is such a big deal. Yes, it was our chief infantry battle instrument of WWII and Korea.

That said....

For those of us who intend to use the rifle on a regular basis, though, e. g. for hunting, I'd say a Mosin, Mauser, M1903 Spfld, or similar rifle is a better idea, primarily because they're bolt-action. There are several advantages to a bolt gun, primarily being that of keeping your brass, and the ability to use neck-sizing to preserve the brass's life and get smaller groups. If I were to buy an M1 Garand, it'd probably just stay a safe queen, and that just doesn't seem fair to the gun.

Take heart! That's one more M1 Garand on the market for you all to compete over.

The M-1 rifle is an amazing weapon to shoot. Fairly accurate too. You'd be missing out, my friend.

[pro-nra]

For bulk ammo, I've been using Prvi 150gr flat based from Wideners. They are really close to M2 ball (Almost identical), just as inconsistent as mil spec 147gr but they are non magnetic. Shoots better than HXP and easier on the bore.

Hmmmm that's interesting you find the PRVI more accurate than the HXPs. Although I have not done a side by side testing with PRVI and HXP, I've done extensive surplus M2 testing with my match rifle (a 1917 Eddy). I've found the the most accurate surplus 30-06 out there are the FA M72 Match followed closely by the Dane AMA, closely behind it are the 60s vintage HXPs then all other surplus M2s.

[Pete1979]

I've not used Prvi in my M1, I was referring only to the bulk (Prvi) bullet sold by Wideners as an M2 ball clone as opposed to pulled M80 bullets. My "regular" load is a Prvi bullet over 4895 in a Lake City case.
I haven't shot any HXP out of my 30-06s for several months, its all sitting in a box with your name on it

[Orlando]

Heres a tip for the Greek HXP, I weigh each round and seperate.
I keep 396gr-400gr as shooters, everything else goes in a pile for sighters.
I also then individually roll each rd on a flat surface and wtch the bullet to see if it is set straight in the case. If not it gets thrown into the sighter pile.
By taking these steps you can make HXP pretty darn accurate and will limit your fliers
You will be surprised how much some lots will vary

[Pete1979]

I have a bad one sitting above the loading bench, its not only crooked but it was about a 1/4 inch shorter than the other 7 in that clip. Either '73 or '78

[Orlando]

I have had powder weights vary greatly, crooked bullets, bullets so loose you could pull them out with your fingers
Thing is the worst were all out of one 1960s lot
Even the good lots weights will vary and its worth segregating if you want the best accuracy you can get