It can be a Mauser pistol (prototype) that was never cataloged.

[juangomez]

gfg

[surplus-addict]

Those very well could be what you are saying, but I am not a Mauser pistol aficionado. Go post all of this info over at www.surplusrifleforum.com, under their german pistol section,
They will know what these are better than anybody else I can think off. They are the bomb over there

[pitfighter]

Yes - very rare and very cool - this is a special pistol.
It looks like an advanced version of the 1914 Mauser pistol - that was 7.65 of course.

Very cool!!!!

Thanks for posting.

Pit.

[juangomez]

thanks

mmmmdfg

[saki302]

It looks more like a CZ24/27 than a Mauser 1914 to me.

Neat find- I would do more research and see what you can find. They might be worth something

-Dave

[7.62x54R]

Seems the OP modified the Mauser Wikipedia page. From that entry seems his gun is of CZ type construction / base. Has value (not exactly a million dollar colt or something) but try finding someone who cares would be harder. Maybe an advanced Mauser collector.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser#Pistols

[pitfighter]

No, not a million dollars - but still significant money, if it is a genuine prototype.

WW2 era firearms prototypes are highly sought after.

Often in the high five figure, auction results - but the OP will have to do more homework, better photographs, etc.,

Also - a proper auction house appraisal, is really the only way to go. The word of internet experts, is OK, but can be misleading to say the least.


Pit.

[juangomez]

book

mmmhwwg

[beetle]

your experimental mauser looks a little like this one -- it is also a 9mm experimental. Could be a part of the same development process. Base looks like a 1914 pocket pistol by sized upwards. On this one it looks like they tried to lighten it by cutting out some of slide to expose the barrel (beretta style).

Anyways, this experimental one sold for $45,000. It obviously is in much nicer condition, but still it's a good indication that yours might be valuable.

thanks for sharing!

[morrcarr67]

When it comes to guns of value I would listen to beetle; he knows a thing or two about them.

[juangomez]

pistols

thxffd

[gun toting monkeyboy]

Hmmmm... I don't know if those are actual mausers. I can't see the markings clearly, but the shape looks more like that of some of the Spanish-made handguns from the 1920s and 30s. It wasn't unheard of for some of the smaller mom and pop shops to mark them with whatever they thought would get them to sell. What are the odds that these are two undocumented prototypes, here-to-fore unknown to the world of Mauser collectors? And what are the odds that they came out of some little shop in Spain, where somebody marked them with the Mauser logo, but little other information?

-Mb

(edit) The other thing I find suspicious is the date. That is smack dab in the middle of WWI. They were busy working on other projects at that point. Developing new handguns was a low priority. They already had the Luger, and were also cranking out the Red 9 version of the C-96. Trying to develop another handgun that looks like it takes almost as much machining time doesn't strike me as likely.

[surplus-addict]

Hmmmm... I don't know if those are actual mausers. I can't see the markings clearly, but the shape looks more like that of some of the Spanish-made handguns from the 1920s and 30s. It wasn't unheard of for some of the smaller mom and pop shops to mark them with whatever they thought would get them to sell. What are the odds that these are two undocumented prototypes, here-to-fore unknown to the world of Mauser collectors? And what are the odds that they came out of some little shop in Spain, where somebody marked them with the Mauser logo, but little other information?

-Mb

(edit) The other thing I find suspicious is the date. That is smack dab in the middle of WWI. They were busy working on other projects at that point. Developing new handguns was a low priority. They already had the Luger, and were also cranking out the Red 9 version of the C-96. Trying to develop another handgun that looks like it takes almost as much machining time doesn't strike me as likely.

I think you hit the nail on the head. I was wondering why it didn't seem to like a Mauser handgun (quality wise).

[juangomez]

with all due respect to his comments.

shhjfgb

[gun toting monkeyboy]

My problem with them isn't their location. My problem is that they don't look like any other Mauser designs. And Mauser handguns are some of the most studied and collected handguns in the world. There are volumes of data, pictures and documentation on them. There are collectors who collect nothing else. There are hundreds, if not thousands of people who have done a great deal of in-depth research over the years. What are the odds that a new, heretofore unknown prototype, one that doesn't look like any other Mauser design, is going to turn up a century later? Much less two of them, which would suggest that multiple pistols were produced? And there is nothing mentioning them in any of the research over the years? That is what rings alarm bells for me. There is always that chance that they could be real. But there is a much greater chance that they were made by some enterprising local gunsmith somewhere, and marked as Mausers to help them sell. Remember, trademarks were really hard to enforce early in the last century. And it was really, really easy to forge the logo for Mauser. I have seen some Chinese copies of their C-96 pistols that were almost perfect. Aside from a minor spelling error or two. I have seen Spanish copies that claim to be from Mauser's Eibar factory. Which would be really cool, aside from the fact that no such factory existed. Those pistols are interesting, but they just look too crude to be a Mauser design. If anything, they look more like enlarged versions of the Spanish Ruby and Paramount automatic pistols. Just because they have Mauser engraved on them doesn't make them real Mausers.

-Mb

(edit) As some of the other posters have noted, those look more like Czech pistols. The fact that they are close to the same, but not identical also makes me think that these were one-off hand made models from somewhere. And that grip angle is just wrong. I would post these on a Mauser collector's forum. Though don't be too surprised if they say basically the same thing I do.